zoony Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Great finish. Reed was deadly with his putter all week, deserved to win. Rory sucked today. Fowler and Spieth just didnt have enough holes to catch Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Reed always looks like he’s 10 over par. He’s 10/10 intense all the time. I guess that’s why he’s such a good Ryder Cup player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Congrats to Reed. I hope he gets that well deserved endorsement from Johnsonville Brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Good day for USA golf. Top three all US golfers under 30, and none named Justin Thomas. Those 4 are the guys that will be leading the US Ryder Cup team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 Just read an article on Reed getting kicked out of UGA Golf team and having to transfer to Augusta State. He was cheating and steeling? Wtf. Dude is apparently not very well liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Pretty sure he was a raging alcoholic back then. He's even separated from his family, from what I've heard. He's the anti-establishment. Good for him. Edit..the funny thing is, Lefty and Tiger (and others) have done a lot worse and people eat them up (including me). Speaking of Tiger...why does Faldo openly root against him on air? What's the bad blood there? Nick hasn't been relevant in almost 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Faldo's just a jerk. It's interesting hearing criticism of Tiger. The other tournaments he played in didn't have a field like the Masters; not even close. He hung around until Sunday. I wanted more, not sure why anyone expected more though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Faldo was famously prickly in his playing days. Not dissimilar to a young Tiger, really. Its just one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I like Reed. I like having a bad guy on the course. And he's an assassin in the Ryder Cup! I used to hate Faldo. Then I met him and he he could not have been a nicer more genuine likable guy. He stepped up and helped my charity tournament when another pro left us hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: I like Reed. I like having a bad guy on the course. And he's an assassin in the Ryder Cup! All of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said: I like Reed. I like having a bad guy on the course. And he's an assassin in the Ryder Cup! I used to hate Faldo. Then I met him and he he could not have been a nicer more genuine likable guy. He stepped up and helped my charity tournament when another pro left us hanging. Oh no doubt that I like Faldo. Him dropping Imagine Dragons lyrics at the end was cool too. Not sure if that was an intern helping or not. ? I just think his bad-mouthing of a single player on air gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 how was he bad mouthing him though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sad story about Reed's estrangement from his family: He’s estranged from his parents and sister, and has been since 2012. That’s when he married Justine Karain at age 22. Bill and Jeannette thought Reed was too young to get married, and according to Shipnuck, Reed then cut off all contact with them before the wedding and hasn’t spoken to them since. Things have gotten more complicated. In 2014, a friend gave Bill, Jeannette, and sister Hannah tickets to the U.S. Open at Pinehurst No. 2. They attended to watch Patrick play, only to be escorted from the premises by police at Justine’s request. Then, in 2016, Justine wrote a Facebook post calling Bill and Jeannette “sick people,” and she accused them of being abusive toward Patrick when he was growing up. Hannah responded with her own Facebook post, calling Patrick a “horrible stranger” who wasn’t the same person he used to be. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patrick-reeds-estranged-mother-reacts-sons-masters-win-151600332.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I know what that's like. You don't get to pick family. Fortunately, that doesn't mean you are stuck with them forever either just because you happened to be born into it. Make your own family, I say. I've never felt some familial bond to my parents or siblings. I get along with 3 of them. I removed 2 siblings and my dad from my life when I was 24 and haven't looked back since. They weren't good for me and there was a pretty clear line of morality drawn that was crossed so I had to cut them loose and move on. Kinda makes me like Reed a little more. Not everybody is able to make that break, even when they feel like it's the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Busch1724 said: how was he bad mouthing him though? He's just done it in the past, little comments, never very complimentary, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The whole family thing is probably not going to end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Yeah, I read a story from a few years back about him from Deadspin. It was a fascinating read - a character study. This part really stood out to me. https://deadspin.com/how-patrick-reed-became-golfs-latest-villian-1682766305 Quote For Reed, it was the end of a short but brilliant career, and the cherry on top of a 6-0 match play record at the NCAA championships. He kept his emotions in check—deep down, he knew Haack wasn't wrong to let him go, and as badly as he wanted to win, there was a bittersweet feeling knowing his college career was over. To the Georgia players and coaches, though—and even to some of Reed's teammates—the win represented the opposite of a fairy-tale ending. Reed and English had deserved different fates in their final match, they thought, and everything about it felt deeply unfair. One of O'Connor's sources, in the ESPN story, called it "the death of karma." Reading stuff like that kinda makes me glad I'm not really *great* at anything. I'm good at stuff but as far as a particular craft - like sports - I'm not really great. Guys like Reed put everything they have and them some - every bit of real energy and passion - into a thing. The put everything into it and it almost always seems to come at a high price and it's too high for my liking. Maybe I'm a slacker but I can't imagine pouring so much into a single thing (though maybe I have without realizing it) Also kinda got a Barry Bonds vibe from Reed reading this. Anyone else get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 hours ago, thebluefood said: Yeah, I read a story from a few years back about him from Deadspin. It was a fascinating read - a character study. This part really stood out to me. https://deadspin.com/how-patrick-reed-became-golfs-latest-villian-1682766305 Reading stuff like that kinda makes me glad I'm not really *great* at anything. I'm good at stuff but as far as a particular craft - like sports - I'm not really great. Guys like Reed put everything they have and them some - every bit of real energy and passion - into a thing. The put everything into it and it almost always seems to come at a high price and it's too high for my liking. Maybe I'm a slacker but I can't imagine pouring so much into a single thing (though maybe I have without realizing it) Also kinda got a Barry Bonds vibe from Reed reading this. Anyone else get that? I've played competitive golf for over 40 years. I never reached the heights of Reed or many others, and used to say when talking with friends that it took a different mentality to be great at golf. That the best guys I played against seemed a little "off" mentally, because they had the ability to lose all the distractions and put a burning focus onto the task at hand. Know a few guys who were among the best golfers in the Mid-Atlantic region at a younger age, but didn't deal well with that mentality, and ended up as addicts...drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling...and it wrecked their lives. One, who may have been the MOST talented, passed away last year after 10 years sobriety, and just a couple months after firing a career best 66 at at age 56. Reed is OCD, and I'm sure there are a number of top golfers with that affliction to varying degrees. Greatness can come at a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Thanks for the insight @Long n Left - I've never really been too close to professional golfers (or pros in any sport for that matter) but that doesn't surprise me at all. I was never really great at music in high school but I would practice for hours on difficult pieces (audition pieces, concerts, marching band shows, performances for school musicals, etc.). For at least a few hours every day, I would pour hours and hours of work into getting it down to perfection. Sometimes I'd play so intensely I'd break sticks and mallets on the keys after going over the same passage 40 or 50 times - making sure I not only played accurately but I played it correctly. I'd be an emotional wreck but I'd be damned if I wasn't ready for every performance. That's a very mild case compared to the likes of Reed but looking back on it, knowing how intense that was, I shudder to think what must be going on in his mind. This is something he's been doing his whole life and it seems as if golf is the absolute most important thing to him and he will win at any cost. You think about other folks with that intense will to win - guys like Ty Cobb or John McGraw or, yes, Barry Bonds - and what they did to get to get to there along with the price they had to pay. You think about musicians who are the best in their field, especially in the world of classical music and how competitive that is. Same with theater and academia and politics and business. I even see it in activist circles. They pay heavy prices for reaching the pinnacle of their professions but what do they ultimately find there? Was it really worth it for them? Maybe they'd say yes - maybe they'd even believe it deep down - but from where I'm standing, the answer's a resounding "no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Long n Left said: I've played competitive golf for over 40 years. I never reached the heights of Reed or many others, and used to say when talking with friends that it took a different mentality to be great at golf. That the best guys I played against seemed a little "off" mentally, because they had the ability to lose all the distractions and put a burning focus onto the task at hand. Know a few guys who were among the best golfers in the Mid-Atlantic region at a younger age, but didn't deal well with that mentality, and ended up as addicts...drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling...and it wrecked their lives. One, who may have been the MOST talented, passed away last year after 10 years sobriety, and just a couple months after firing a career best 66 at at age 56. Reed is OCD, and I'm sure there are a number of top golfers with that affliction to varying degrees. Greatness can come at a price. Greatness is always a story of obsession. Obsession is never healthy. Which is why I discontinued being in awe of these types several decades ago. I would say they deserve pity, but nobody making that kind of money deserves pity... As an aside, the more i learn about academic greatness, the mpre im convinced that autism has probably done more to shape human history than any other disease. Start with Isaac Newton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Patrick introduced himself to strangers by saying things like, "I'm Patrick Reed, and I'll kick the **** out of you at golf any time you want." ****y doesn't seem to quite cover it. https://deadspin.com/how-patrick-reed-became-golfs-latest-villian-1682766305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, Rocky21 said: Patrick introduced himself to strangers by saying things like, "I'm Patrick Reed, and I'll kick the **** out of you at golf any time you want." ****y doesn't seem to quite cover it. https://deadspin.com/how-patrick-reed-became-golfs-latest-villian-1682766305 The guy seems to alienate himself from everyone apart from his wife and child (though we'll see if that'll continue) but he seems to back it up with a frightening level of focus and practice. Besides, as off-putting as that is, I'm sure some of the other legendary trash-talkers of our time have said way worse. That downright affable compared to some of the other stuff he did, according to teammates and members of his own family. I got a bad feeling that for whatever future accomplishments may lie ahead of him, this is going to end up profoundly stark and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I admire the athletes who can rise to the top of their profession while not being total dicks. Sounds like Patrick Reed hasn't figured out that trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Rocky21 said: Patrick introduced himself to strangers by saying things like, "I'm Patrick Reed, and I'll kick the **** out of you at golf any time you want." ****y doesn't seem to quite cover it. https://deadspin.com/how-patrick-reed-became-golfs-latest-villian-1682766305 That is extreme, but a story I heard is that when Rory was a junior, he would write "loser" on his ball. On the first tee, when identifying balls, his opponent would hold his up saying, "I'm playing a Titleist 3." Rory would then hold his up and say "I'm playing a loser!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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