Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 32 minutes long, but its a good video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 *at work and can’t watch the video Didn’t Google already split into two different entities? I think, along with that, all the telecoms should be split up. The banks should be split up. There are lots of industries where much of the capital resides in the hands of a few. Apparently forcing companies to split is like, socialism or something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Amazon has truly become the online Walmart 1 stop shop. I suppose the difference is with an online retailer as long as they are willing to ship to every location, you avoid the issue of the Walmart "taking over a town, then splitting" issue? I still remember a pre-Amazon internet, or at least before Amazon was the giant it is now. I went to multiple websites depending on the products I was looking for. I rarely bought movies/DVDs from amazon as I referred other retailers but they were either absorbed by amazon (I think deep discount dvd was?) or they closed up shop due to not being able to compete. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Springfield said: *at work and can’t watch the video Didn’t Google already split into two different entities? I think, along with that, all the telecoms should be split up. The banks should be split up. There are lots of industries where much of the capital resides in the hands of a few. Apparently forcing companies to split is like, socialism or something. Alphabet owns Google. That's not a split. I am talking about YouTube being its own company. Google's Business Suite being it's own company, etc. 9 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Amazon has truly become the online Walmart 1 stop shop. I suppose the difference is with an online retailer as long as they are willing to ship to every location, you avoid the issue of the Walmart "taking over a town, then splitting" issue? the thing is Amazon is starving its competitors. It's competitors being Target, Kroger, etc. That is not good for this country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Gee, remember when this argument was all about Microsoft, all the time? Not a fan of breaking up tech companies. Financial institutions, on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said: Not a fan of breaking up tech companies. you should watch the video they are no longer tech companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Ok...can't right now cuz I'm at work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 The difference between amazon and Walmart is that Amazon is awesome and Walmart sucks. These companies took over because they're good at what they do. I'm cool with breaking companies up for good reasons, I'm not entirely sure there are good reasons here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: you should watch the video they are no longer tech companies. O rly. I guess this laptop I'm typing on, made by Apple, isn't a piece of tech. Nor is the phone I use to listen to music on, send messages with and take photos with? I guess if I walk into the Apple store, I'm not being sold tech? Not browsing tech devices? I'll watch the video out of curiosity. I hope that an NYU professor actually has some good points rather than some anti big business socialist agenda. Edit: I started laughing at the part about a minute in where he says that our brains are so big that we're expelled from our mothers because our brains are too big and we're born prematurely. Get the **** outta here. His McDonald's analogy is pretty poor. Anyway, I gotta get back to work here, too, I'll watch the rest later. BTW, I think it's pretty telling that Benning is here making an anti big business thread and this is the third response with someone saying that they're at work and can't watch the video. Edited February 1, 2018 by Spaceman Spiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I'm not about punishing companies for being successful. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Anyway, I gotta get back to work here, too, I'll watch the rest later. BTW, I think it's pretty telling that Benning is here making an anti big business thread and this is the third response with someone saying that they're at work and can't watch the video. Someone should start a thread "Do you post at work?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not about punishing companies for being successful. Meet America, 2018. You're too rich, too successful, too wealthy. Rather than aspire to be like you, we'll criticize you and tear you down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Someone should start a thread "Do you post at work?" I do Perks of the job, innit 28 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not about punishing companies for being successful. that's because you are missing the point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 34 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'm not about punishing companies for being successful. I AM about breaking up monopolies and duopolies (not saying that any exist here). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 You can start by using www.duckduckgo.com instead of google. There's a start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Malapropismic Depository said: You can start by using www.duckduckgo.com instead of google. There's a start Too long Needs tiny url Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Amazon is in way way too many verticals. It is dangerous from a societal standpoint that thy are the backbone of cloud infrastructure via AWS, you do all your shopping on it and that it has the cash to go into any industry and undercut competition. It doesn’t always work (see Amazon phone) but I don’t need Amazon to be doing everything everywhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Alphabet owns Google. That's not a split. I am talking about YouTube being its own company. Google's Business Suite being it's own company, etc. Alphabet is a holding company. Google is both a company and a brand. Google the brand has a zillion subsidiary entities that do a million various things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I'm a layman, not really his audience. A lot of his arguments for breaking up the companies seemed to hinge on breakdowns of market capitalization percentages I didn't understand. But the general anti-monopoly argument makes sense and I would support his plan to break them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Alphabet is a holding company. Google is both a company and a brand. Google the brand has a zillion subsidiary entities that do a million various things. are they all separate companies? Like Target and Wal-Mart? GEICO and Progressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: are they all separate companies? Like Target and Wal-Mart? GEICO and Progressive? Every box is a separate company. This is just the tip if the iceberg. Every box shown here probably has several or dozens of subsidiary companies. Google Capital and Google Ventures probably each have hundreds or thousands of subsidiaries, holding companies and other offshoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Meet America, 2018. You're too rich, too successful, too wealthy. Rather than aspire to be like you, we'll criticize you and tear you down. There is a lot of consolidation happening across a lot of sectors. In the long term, that will mean the loss of jobs and higher prices for everyone. Also, look at his point about how these companies cheat the system and get hit with fines that are no big deal. Of course that applies to far more than these 4 companies but it's a major problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hersh said: There is a lot of consolidation happening across a lot of sectors. In the long term, that will mean the loss of jobs and higher prices for everyone. Also, look at his point about how these companies cheat the system and get hit with fines that are no big deal. Of course that applies to far more than these 4 companies but it's a major problem. Still at work, I'll watch the video later. However, my point was more about society in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Still at work, I'll watch the video later. However, my point was more about society in general. That's nothing new. Someone gets successful, particularly in public, and there are always people trying to bring that person down for no reason at all. It's like all the hating on Trump. All just a bunch of haters trying to bring a bigly successful man down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Every box is a separate company. This is just the tip if the iceberg. Every box shown here probably has several or dozens of subsidiary companies. Google Capital and Google Ventures probably each have hundreds or thousands of subsidiaries, holding companies and other offshoots. except they all answer to the names at the top of that box. Unless I am missing something, you are making my point. It's like saying Dove and Axe are two entirely separate entities, despite being owned by Unilever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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