Riggo#44 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Another comp would be Albert Pujols. The Angels haven't done jack since signing him. The Cards continued to be a solid winning team even making it back to a World Series after he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: Bryce is gone? Barry ain't buying it! Svurluga thinking he might stay convinces me more that Harp is gone than Lerner saying Harp is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The more I think about Lerner’s comments/admission the other day the more irritated I get. Staying in the Harper sweepstakes was a good reason not to go after Goldschmidt. Staying in the Harper sweepstakes was a good reason to not trade him at the deadline. If the best offer you were going to make was the 10yr 300m one you started with, you were never really in the sweepstakes. Anybody could have told you that YEARS ago. Pathetically poor management by the ownership group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 After listening to Rizzo since Lerner. I have another theory that has been mentioned. Boras might not be getting much better than the Nats offer from anybody. Including Philly who sounds like they are hot on Machado this week (could always change). What if they go back to the Nats and ask for a much shorter deal. Like 4 years at 35M per. Would you take it? I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 A lot of you clearly don't understand economics or supply and demand and diminishing returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: A lot of you clearly don't understand economics or supply and demand and diminishing returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 @PleaseBlitz Gotta bring humor into the equation haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: A lot of you clearly don't understand economics or supply and demand and diminishing returns. BS! I demand that Lerners supply their money to resign Harper or my returns to Tysons and Lerner properties will diminish! See I understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Its not out of the realm of possibility that the demand for Harper really isn't THAT high, and that he's not as looked highly upon among baseball front offices as he is by the fans and media. I mean lets be honest, other then his 2015 MVP season has he really lived up to the hype? He's been a good if not very good player but other then one great year, he's also been inconsistent and injury prone. He isn't nearly as good as say Mike Trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, skinfan2k said: A lot of you clearly don't understand economics or supply and demand and diminishing returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Bit on Roark from MLBTR (link: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/12/player-rumors-realmuto-gonzalez-roark.html) Quote Tanner Roark’s name is being floated in trade circles as someone the Nationals would be willing to surrender, per Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (via Twitter). This jives with earlier reports that the Nationals continue to seek rotation reinforcements, even after the signing of Patrick Corbin. Roark, 32, has been a steady rotation presence for the past three seasons, though he has yet to recapture the magic of a 2016 that saw him post a 16-10 record with a 2.83 ERA over 210 innings. The last two seasons seem more in line with expectations moving forward, as Roark has averaged 30 starts, 181 innings, and a 4.50 ERA (4.20 FIP) over that span. His 2019 salary is projected around $9.8MM, making him a relatively affordable one-year option as he enters his last year of arbitration, though depending on the assets being asked in return, a free agent flyer, in the ilk of Tyson Ross’s recent $5.75MM deal with Detroit, may be just as (if not more) attractive to teams looking to fill out the back end of their rotation. For the Nationals, it’s a little surprising to see them shopping Roark given their lack of established depth in the upper levels of the minors. It’s not surprising that they’d want to upgrade the rotation behind Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Corbin, but to do so at the cost of Roark feels unnecessarily Sisyphean. After dealing Jefry Rodriguez to the Indians in the Yan Gomes deal, top in-house rotation candidates beyond Roark include Joe Ross, 25, Erick Fedde, 25, and Kyle McGowin, 27 – none of whom would necessarily be considered “established” rotation pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Bit on Roark from MLBTR (link: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/12/player-rumors-realmuto-gonzalez-roark.html) What are we giving him up for? Unless it's a starting 2nd baseman, why move him? Maybe a younger, long term SP that may be a year away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: What are we giving him up for? Unless it's a starting 2nd baseman, why move him? Maybe a younger, long term SP that may be a year away? Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. He had an up and down year last year--he was either really good or absolutely horrible. Unless we can get someone that will give use 180-200 IP of a 3 WAR pitcher, than we need to hold onto him. However, he could be in serious decline too. He's way over-achieved anything we could have hoped for when we dealt Cristian Guzman for him back in 2010. I think this is who he is going to be--a hittable, back-end guy. More thoughts from Talk Nats: https://www.talknats.com/2018/12/11/breaking-sources-say-tanner-roark-shopped-trades/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yeah I wonder... i guess they're trying to get out a year early instead of a year late. Gio might have burned them a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 https://www.federalbaseball.com/2018/12/11/18135726/trade-market-suggests-madison-bumgarner-within-reach-washington-nationals Quote If the prospects dealt for Goldschmidt are remotely similar to those San Francisco is asking in exchange for Bumgarner, the Washington Nationals should jump all over it. Victor Robles would be completely off the table and it wouldn’t be far-fetched to suggest they could come to an agreement without including the team’s No. 2 prospect Carter Kieboom as well. The Giants’ farm system is one of the weaker groups in baseball, ranked seventh-worst in the sport by FanGraphs last month. While the Nats didn’t fare much better at 18th overall, they do have MLB Pipeline’s No. 81-ranked prospect in Luis Garcia. An 18-year-old middle infielder projected to reach the majors in 2021, Garcia (55 grade per MLB Pipeline) is blocked by Kieboom and Trea Turner in the Nats’ organization. His ability to play all over the infield could entice the Giants to build a package around him, especially considering the team isn’t set on sticking with Joe Panik at second base long term. With Washington still in search of another pitcher to round out the rotation, it could always opt to settle on a lower-floor starter who wouldn’t cost as much as Bumgarner in either prospects or salary. But according to MLB Network’s Jon Morosi, both the Philadelphia Phillies and Atlanta Braves are among the clubs interested in the Giants’ ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 MadBum would be a great get. But I am curious about his health is a question mark and Luis Garcia is quickly approaching Soto/Kieboom/Robles territory. BA said this about him: Quote Thanks for the question Tim. It makes sense to start out with Garcia, who might be the most exciting player in the farm for the Nationals right now, given that most people know what Robles is capable of at this point. He might be the best hitter in the system now that Soto has graduated, and you wouldn’t have to search around too much to find people who put 70/60 on his hit/power tools. I’m a little more conservative than that presently but he has tremendous aptitude in the batter’s box and makes adjustments incredibly well, particularly given his age relative to the league, as you mentioned. I’m not big on comps in general, but I was responsible for our Appy League list and Garcia reminded me a lot of Wander Franco in many ways. a 70/60 hit/power combo would be Rendon. .300 hitter with 25ish homers, from a shortstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: This will come in handy, and I really like her, lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: This will come in handy, and I really like her, lmao Not to get into a political discussion, but it's one of my go-to's, and I think she's the new Sarah Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Not to get into a political discussion, but it's one of my go-to's, and I think she's the new Sarah Palin. Oh ya, let's not do this here, I wouldn't go that far. Yet : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGoodBits Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Trading Roark on the trade block makes sense if they’re trying to add another rotation pitcher. Basically upgrade our #4 slot and use cheaper/younger guys for our #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: MadBum would be a great get. But I am curious about his health is a question mark and Luis Garcia is quickly approaching Soto/Kieboom/Robles territory. BA said this about him: a 70/60 hit/power combo would be Rendon. .300 hitter with 25ish homers, from a shortstop. I wonder who Washington would have selected at 6 had Atlanta been able to come up with the $750,000 to sign Rendon out of HS. Archie Bradley Lindor Baez Cory Spandenberg Springer Taylor Jungmann Nimmo Jose Fernandez Those picks followed Rendon, what an incredible class, what a phenomenal job done by most of those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Not to get into a political discussion, but it's one of my go-to's, and I think she's the new Sarah Palin. Palin isn’t any more intelligent than your most recent deposit into the commode, only one side of the isle trafficks in such egregious ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, volsmet said: Palin isn’t any more intelligent than your most recent deposit into the commode, only one side of the isle trafficks in such egregious ignorance. 22 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Not to get into a political discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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