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52 minutes ago, PF Chang said:

 

You're welcome - I hope it wasn't Harper's last home game here but we'll see. Heard on the radio this morning that the negotiations with him in December 2016 started at $540 million? They didn't specify how many years but regardless it's hard to see the Nats going for that. 

 

$38m/yr for 14 years is $532m. 

 

$540m is probably a reasonable starting point. Both Harper and Machado are going to be over $500m given their young age. They’ll probably both have multiple opt outs. High 30m range per year is probably what we’re staring at. 

 

Realistically, Nats would probably only have to pay him for 4-5 years before he takes that opt out at 30. 

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7 minutes ago, StillUnknown said:

 

Rings are not dependent on Harper returning, it would be dependent on what they do with the money allocated to him

Nah, man, this teams need talent.  You want to talk about allocation resources, you need to start with that instead of trying to find a different young player with that kinda potential to take his place.

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29 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Nah, man, this teams need talent.  You want to talk about allocation resources, you need to start with that instead of trying to find a different young player with that kinda potential to take his place.

 

Bryce had one of the better seasons in recent memory when he won the MVP, and we still didn't make the playoffs

 

I want to re-sign Bryce, I hope they re-sign him. If they don't, that decision won't be what keeps them from winning a world series

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12 hours ago, StillUnknown said:

 

Bryce had one of the better seasons in recent memory when he won the MVP, and we still didn't make the playoffs

 

I want to re-sign Bryce, I hope they re-sign him. If they don't, that decision won't be what keeps them from winning a world series

 

I hate the "single player didn't put us over the top" argument.  We don't know how many more MVP years he has left, and young players like that don't grow on trees.  This is very much an overall talent discussion, trying to limit it to something like we'll be fine without Bryce because we have Soto does it no justice.

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This Harper situation is a huge test of organizational quality.  Keeping him is a must.  It's a matter of prestige.  For all intents and purposes, we are a new franchise with no legacy.  Either we can be a team with the ability to keep our future Hall of Famers throughout their prime years or we are a glorified farm team for the real prestige franchises.

 

We can either be the Mariners or we can be the Cardinals.  In a sport with no salary cap, there is no good reason for a team that's trying to become a blue blood to let their best player in it's short history walk as he's entering his prime.

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8 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

This Harper situation is a huge test of organizational quality.  Keeping him is a must.  It's a matter of prestige.  For all intents and purposes, we are a new franchise with no legacy.  Either we can be a team with the ability to keep our future Hall of Famers throughout their prime years or we are a glorified farm team for the real prestige franchises.

 

We can either be the Mariners or we can be the Cardinals.  In a sport with no salary cap, there is no good reason for a team that's trying to become a blue blood to let their best player in it's short history walk as he's entering his prime.

Those same Cardinals let Albert Pujols go.

 

The Mariners signed Robinson Cano to a huge deal.

 

Not the best examples.

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1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

Those same Cardinals let Albert Pujols go.

 

The Mariners signed Robinson Cano to a huge deal.

 

Not the best examples.

Cardinals already won a couple world series with Pujols before letting him walk, and Cano didn't play his entire career in Seattle to that point.  Your examples don't apply here in context.

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2 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Those same Cardinals let Albert Pujols go.

 

The Mariners signed Robinson Cano to a huge deal. 

 

Not the best examples. 

 

They let Pujols walk when he was 32 and about to fall apart.  They've had a ton of HoFers who've been Cardinals lifers and they've won championships.

 

The Mariners blew up a championship core and have been a second rate franchise their entire existence and are stuck wondering what might have been.

 

That'll be us in ten or fifteen years if we can't keep our own.

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