Burgold Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, tshile said: I'll hold steady Still think the only reason they do this is to hide from foia and potential investigations. This whole 'omg I have so many email accounts' justification is bull**** and it's incredible how many people accept it. I'm excited to watch the people who told me its not a big deal Clinton had her own email server and used private email and deleted her email when caught, tell us how it's a problem trump's team did it. That's fair too. Good point. My main argument with Clinton was that the behavior had been standard operating procedure for SOS before her. I think the only thing differentiating this for me is that if you make the email argument a cornerstone of your argument against Clinton in the campaign and then you immediately turn around and do the thing that you proclaimed evil, criminal, and that ought to put her in jail... well, that's a pretty cynical and gross level of hypocrisy on their (Trump, Kushner, etc.'s part) Mind you, we already saw that with how no one seemed to care that Trump brought in an unsecured smart phone into top secret meetings and discussed top secret stuff in the open and with foreign adversaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I'm not so jacked about the private email as I am the hypocrisy in relation to Hillary. Until Congress passes explicit legislation, and the entire government gets cyber security rules and technology down, we will still have people using private email. Will both parties have the political will to pass the necessary legislation? I give it about as much chance as they pass a law overturning Citizens United and curtailing candidates and party contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html No one wants to get Dan Rather'ed out of a job anymore. Can you imagine how much of a **** 22 year old Donld freaking Trump must have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Have ya'll checked to see if Kutchner and co followed protocol and forwarded the private e-mails to the govt account? Hillary pissed all over the rules and you love her....carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Candace Bergen said she went on a date with him once: he showed up wearing a burgundy suit, burgundy shoes, in a burgundy limo. Trump got a handshake instead of a kiss from her too. He's enough to make a woman go lesbian. (Reference to Bergen's role in The Group) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, twa said: Have ya'll checked to see if Kutchner and co followed protocol and forwarded the private e-mails to the govt account? No. Have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Supposedly he did, but did he forward all of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, TheGreatBuzz said: No. Have you? his lawyer says he did....but you know lawyers. Just now, LadySkinsFan said: Supposedly he did, but did he forward all of them? Does it matter? We know Hillary didn't and it didn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, twa said: his lawyer says he did....but you know lawyers. His lawyers also said this was the last time he was going to update his security clearance form. 20 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, PleaseBlitz said: His lawyers also said this was the last time he was going to update his security clearance form. 20 times. I'll take your word for it. wait, you are a lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Burgold said: That's fair too. Good point. My main argument with Clinton was that the behavior had been standard operating procedure for SOS before her. I think the only thing differentiating this for me is that if you make the email argument a cornerstone of your argument against Clinton in the campaign and then you immediately turn around and do the thing that you proclaimed evil, criminal, and that ought to put her in jail... well, that's a pretty cynical and gross level of hypocrisy on their (Trump, Kushner, etc.'s part) Mind you, we already saw that with how no one seemed to care that Trump brought in an unsecured smart phone into top secret meetings and discussed top secret stuff in the open and with foreign adversaries. Yeah, I'd like to avoid a "... but trump" tactic in politics. He shouldn't be a bar anyone's compared to. He's terrible. As president and as a person. His hypocrisy should be expected, it's the type of person he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, twa said: I'll take your word for it. wait, you are a lawyer? Yes, but I enjoy joneing on lawyers. Mostly, this latest Kushner tidbit (and at least 5 othrs) is about hypocrisy. Trump made such a big deal about private email, and then top officials in his admin do the same ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Private e-mail was just the first step and is allowed if you follow the rules. Of course rules are for the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, tshile said: Yeah, I'd like to avoid a "... but trump" tactic in politics. He shouldn't be a bar anyone's compared to. He's terrible. As president and as a person. His hypocrisy should be expected, it's the type of person he is. I hear ya, but that's tough to do when we're actually talking directly about Trump and his administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, twa said: . Of course rules are for the little people. Im 5'6 140lbs. Do I have to follow the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, twa said: I'll take your word for it. wait, you are a lawyer? Are we talking about the same lawyer who might have possibly revealed by prank he hasn't seen all the emails? http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-lawyer-email-prankster-private-2017-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, tshile said: I'm excited to watch the people who told me its not a big deal Clinton had her own email server and used private email and deleted her email when caught, tell us how it's a problem trump's team did it. I'll play devil's advocate. I said the Hillary email wasn't a big deal (or at least nowhere near as big a deal as it was made out to be.) It's a problem that Trump's team did it. The reason it's a problem though it because the GOP spent 2 years and millions of millions of dollars making it out to be the crime of the century. It would not be a stretch to say it was the foundation of the Trump campaign. They still yell "lock her up" everywhere that Trump goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, TheGreatBuzz said: Im 5'6 140lbs. Do I have to follow the rules? Yes, you enlisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I can't imagine Trump likes the way this turned out. He backed a loser. Got to hurt his ego a bit. I'm sure he'll place all the blame on McConnell for making him back Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 He's so petty lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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