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AsburySkinsFan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Good god man, Trump is a ****ing idiot. One of the founding members of NATO and now he wants to pull out of that too! God if only Trump's dad was this good at pulling out, we wouldn't be in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-restaurant-civility.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion Whether or not you think public shaming should be happening, it’s important to understand why it’s happening. It’s less a result of a breakdown in civility than a breakdown of democracy. Though it’s tiresome to repeat it, Donald Trump eked out his minority victory with help from a hostile foreign power. He has ruled exclusively for his vengeful supporters, who love the way he terrifies, outrages and humiliates their fellow citizens. Trump installed the right-wing Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court seat that Republicans stole from Barack Obama. Gorsuch, in turn, has been the fifth vote in decisions on voter roll purges and, on Monday, racial gerrymandering that will further entrench minority rule. All over the country, Republican members of Congress have consistently refused to so much as meet with many of the scared, furious citizens they ostensibly represent. A great many of these citizens are working tirelessly to take at least one house of Congress in the midterms — which will require substantially more than 50 percent of total votes, given structural Republican advantages — so that the country’s anti-Trump majority will have some voice in the federal government. and Quote The right’s revulsion against a black president targeted by birther conspiracy theories is not the same as the left’s revulsion against a racist president who spread birther conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Stupid anti-Trump hysterical know-nothing. We need some Trump officials to tell us what's right. Oh...wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Llevron Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That's exactly what needs to be happening to these people. "Why dont you leave my husband alone?" **** please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I don't know...harassment is still harassment even if done for a good cause. (I can't listen to it right now, so I don't know what they said.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 "why don't you leave my husband alone" Well hey, the wife had more balls on her to actually go confront them while the Senator high-tailed it into the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 So he went back into his shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Llevron said: That's exactly what needs to be happening to these people. "Why dont you leave my husband alone?" **** please No more governance without consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Riggo-toni said: It will not. Trump's minions do not see cause and effect, even at their own peril. They don't even understand the lingo. "Please" and "Thanks" are beyond them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, visionary said: I don't know...harassment is still harassment even if done for a good cause. (I can't listen to it right now, so I don't know what they said.) Why do they deserve special treatment? Their decisions abuse people from a distance and yet are supposedly immune from confrontation. No way. No one else is holding them to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: "Now, please scoot. I've got some nice folks waiting for their Mint Juleps." ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I remember a few years ago, maybe more recently than that, the right was complaining that fans at a baseball game booed a politician. They said, keep sports pure, no politics. I argued against that, saying that when does a citizen get a chance to directly express their opinion. Isn't it an important right that we the people get that opportunity. So, I really don't find fault with a citizen playing this tape or telling a politician what they think about them or their policies. There are lines. Violence is not acceptable. Threats are not acceptable. Etc. That said, if you see a politician and elect not to speak you are making a choice and that's okay, but you may be shirking your duty as a citizen. This democratic experiment needs politicians to hear from more than toadies, lobbyists, fellow politicians, and the billionaire class else they lose touch with their job. How can they represent us if they never hear or see us? Now, it can backfire which is why discourse and reasoned debate is considered higher than shouting and insulting, but I'm not telling anyone to shelve their First Amendment freedoms so a politician can be left in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Why do they deserve special treatment? They don't. And people should do what they can legally to punish them or illegally if they are ok with the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Why do they deserve special treatment? Their decisions abuse people from a distance and yet are supposedly immune from confrontation. No way. No one else is holding them to account. So I can't expect any complaints from you on people berating/harassing the press? Or are they immune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, visionary said: I don't know...harassment is still harassment even if done for a good cause. (I can't listen to it right now, so I don't know what they said.) They didnt really say anything out of control. How can you sleep at night Why are you doing this Stuff like that. They were a little emotional for my tastes but I can understand it in this case I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 These guys fund raise every time a nazi gets a boner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, twa said: So I can't expect any complaints from you on people berating/harassing the press? Or are they immune? You mean like Trumplodytes have done for two years+ at his campaign rallies? BTW, from what we’ve seen so far of these confrontations they fall far from the President calling members of the press “enemies of the people”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, AsburySkinsFan said: You mean like Trumplodytes have done for two years+ at his campaign rallies? BTW, from what we’ve seen so far of these confrontations they fall far from the President calling members of the press “enemies of the people”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, AsburySkinsFan said: You mean like Trumplodytes have done for two years+ at his campaign rallies? BTW, from what we’ve seen so far of these confrontations they fall far from the President calling members of the press “enemies of the people”. yes like those, maybe at their house or where they eat or play though. You OK with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I really can't believe that the story of the day where the line is with respect to interactions with public servants and whether it is okay to interrupt their meal, and not the multiple thousands of children that have been forcibly separated from their families and stuck into cages by the American federal government in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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