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Just now, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Curious if you agree with Trumps actions here or not.

 

on the face of it...NO

 

I don't trust Edrogan, and support the Kurds in general.

 

of course It might be fun to go back to review some posters comments on the PPK  if we were bored.

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21 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

this is ridiculous.

this is the kind of ninny-screaming about everything that makes people roll their eyes on the real serious stuff.

He held his hand up.  Like an escort motion. Not a "hair touch". i hate this guy, hope he chokes on a chicken bone and dies in his own puke. But this is moronic.

 

~Bang

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51 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/631991/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-military-service/

 

Of that figure, the career-oriented soldiers supported Trump over Clinton.

 

I don't read that data the way you do.  

 

I read it as "military" vs "non-military", not as "former military" vs "current military".  

 

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49 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

I don't read that data the way you do.  

 

I read it as "military" vs "non-military", not as "former military" vs "current military".  

 

That's real. I can see that too.

 

I did see something else at the time with regards to active duty versus veterans being a huge disparity, but I will probably never find it.

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9 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/631991/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-military-service/

 

Of that figure, the career-oriented soldiers supported Trump over Clinton.

 

7 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

That's real. I can see that too.

 

I did see something else at the time with regards to active duty versus veterans being a huge disparity, but I will probably never find it.

 

Okay.  You had stated active duty majority voted for Hillary and I couldn't find anything backing that up.

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2 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

 

Okay.  You had stated active duty majority voted for Hillary and I couldn't find anything backing that up.

 

i was going to ask benning for a source yesterday. he usually uses reputable major media sources, left/right partisanship aside, but i was curious (not reactive) as to which source he used for that claim.  the matter is one i have had some connection to and the best mega-data taken from about 6 months before the vote to about 6 months ago seems to put things in an interesting "about half and half" state of play in that favorable numbers in the low to mid 40's (percentage) of current active military were common to each candidate with a gap of 4-6 points between either,  depending on the study, with the remaining responses made to get to 100% were in an undecided or other category.

 

and yes, retired military went in bigger % for trump, and reasons given are worth some discussion on its own when it comes to that population, many of whom will vote right/left/whatever if they think it will help there overwhelming medical needs

 

i was surprised that the active military wasn't more weighted to trump, although the "about half and half" mirrors my personal experience being around a lot of military, including post-election until this last year

 

the most commonly quoted source for benning's claim is cnn exit polling, which is quite good but is still exit polling. what i want to go review though is trump support among law enforcement which i haven't done for awhile and is another interesting demographic view

 

but this is OT for the thread so we should let it fade sooner rather than later

 

 

 

 

here's some links, inc. a relevant study with its methodology and format explained that some (or one) may find interesting

 

from 2016 (refers to the commonly used  cnn polling here)

 

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/11/why-veterans-voted-donald-trump-swing-states/21603486/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGjpmZcvR4QDUf0tCGFwlSxINmwHKseHsz47jXJyZrVFrssO3DQ4QoWoHZvWY5KJgU7iEnheb2vJepyN0rXiCxHXd5eCB29h6w8YqnPktHt7yOLDoyyhC6bgP2ikClOhJcxB2gCm9VZ-wheiDjy-NfItUwbwbtOHGdEAoWkFw3Z6

 

 

from oct 2018

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/10/15/support-for-trump-is-fading-among-active-duty-troops-new-poll-shows/

 

 

from nov 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/26/military-times-poll-majority-troops-support-president-trump/802279001/

 

 

a pdf of study mentioned earlier (opportunity to see an actual study design in this case)

 

https://www.fvap.gov/uploads/FVAP/Reports/PEVS_ADM_TechReport_Final.pdf

 

back to topic

 

 

 

 

 

 

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