No Excuses Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/turkey-coup-live-updates-explosion-8431256 Reports of a military takeover happening in Turkey. Jets flying over Istanbul and Ankara, and internet has been cut off in the capital city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Nice. A NATO member succumbing to extremism too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Nice. A NATO member succumbing to extremism too I don't know. Erdogan is an extremist himself and has stripped the Turks of some basic liberties like freedom of press. I had no idea that there was even a rift between the military and the executive leadership so the militaries angle is unclear. Lots of images on twitter of tanks in the streets and videos of jets flying overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Nice. A NATO member succumbing to extremism too Erdrogan is basically a dictator and has done a lot more to help Isis than to stop it. This could very well be a blow against extremism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 How popular is Erdogan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Erdogan, the current head of state, is an Islamist politician who has been steering the country into dictatorship. If there is a coup I imagine it is by military leaders worried about extremism. Most coups occur in Turkey whenever the military fears the government is abandoning its secularist principles. This might be a good thing for us if the military reconciles with the Kurds and goes full throttle after ISIL and maybe even Assad. Erdogan has managed to make enemies out of all sides in the neighboring conflicts. I hate that s.o.b. My only fear would be if this turns out to be a reaction to the recent rapprochement with Israel...then that would mean extremists in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Prime Minister threatens those involved 'will pay the highest price' Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said those responsible for what he described as an attempted coup by a faction within the military would pay the highest price. He says they would not be allowed to do anything to interrupt democracy. “Some people illegally undertook an illegal action outside of the chain of command,” Yildirim said in comments broadcast by private channel NTV. “The government elected by the people remains in charge. This government will only go when the people say so.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/754049753269301248 Follow Sky News NewsdeskVerified account@SkyNewsBreak Update - Reuters: #Turkey's military says in a statement that the military has taken over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 How popular is Erdogan? The religious nutters and ultra-conservative/nationalist Turks love him. He's Mike Huckabee and Trump rolled into one. Very religious and very nationalistic/anti-Kurd. He is very unpopular with more secular Turks, but they basically have no voice in Turkey at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I don't know. Erdogan is an extremist himself and has stripped the Turks of some basic liberties like freedom of press. I had no idea that there was even a rift between the military and the executive leadership so the militaries angle is unclear. Lots of images on twitter of tanks in the streets and videos of jets flying overhead. Isn't the military pretty secular in Turkey? Even given the issues with Erdogan, I don't think a military coup is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 BREAKING NEWS: THE TURKISH STATE TV IS NOW SHUT DOWN. — Breaking News Feed (@pzf) July 15, 2016 Internet 'blocked' in Turkey Reports are coming in that the Internet has been closed down in Turkey as a military coup gets underway. Journalists are urging Turkish people to use alternative means to get out information from the country. To those in #Turkey please download TOR or use a VPN. Seeing videos of users having their social media go down. — Tim Pool (@Timcast) July 15, 2016 “@06JAnk: Mayor of Ankara calls for “everyone to the streets”: not necessarily good advice. https://t.co/BAYBh6s2Tf” Why? — Carles Flores (@FloresCarles) July 15, 2016 The mayor of Ankara has reportedly called people out into the streets in defiance of a curfew, suggesting trouble could erupt imminently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So you want a democratically elected religious nutter or a secular military junta, Egypt part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 What a mess. Can't stand Erdogan, but it's not a good message to send Islamists around the world who favor political discourse over violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Now hearing that all TV feed is cut off in Turkey as well. So the people are without Internet and without TV. This is not going to end well. Ultra nationalist Erdogan backers won't sit back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The Summer of Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If we had some involvement in this, things could get very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Reports have come in that the Turkish chief of staff has been taken ‘hostage’. The State news channel reports Hulusi Akar has been taken hostage by the army. The military has issued a statement saying it has taken over. They say all existing foreign relations will continue. “The rule of law must remain a priority,” they added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If we had some involvement in this, things could get very dangerous. Was just wondering if France might be involved. I mean Nice happens and then hours later this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Was just wondering if France might be involved. I mean Nice happens and then hours later this happens wouldn't surprise me. France is a super aggressive military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If we had some involvement in this, things could get very dangerous. I doubt we would want to get our hands dirty there. It's not 1954. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 There was a attempt a few yrs ago that they caught early....I prefer the military there Erdogan has been dictator like in suppressing opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 How does this play out with Turkey being a member of NATO? Can their government call upon NATO to protect them if they are in fact taken over by a coup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Isn't the military pretty secular in Turkey? Even given the issues with Erdogan, I don't think a military coup is helpful. Yeah they have a history of favoring secular rule and Erdogan finally pissed them off enough I guess. He's been using ISIS as a backdrop to really crackdown on Kurds Pictures of thick black smoke from buildings in Ankara on Twitter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 How does this play out with Turkey being a member of NATO? Can their government call upon NATO to protect them if they are in fact taken over by a coup? I figure nato will mostly sit back and let them figure it out themselves. Especially if there is speculation that the new military government would be more aggressive with battling Isis and cooperating with the US to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When democracy just don't work, bring out the tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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