visionary Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Edited January 30, 2017 by visionary 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 @Dan T. sign me up for thoughtless. I don't consider that enough when I think about the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, s0crates said: 1. I linked two videos about the topic being discussed. I assume you chose to ignore them. I chose not to look at them at all. And to read your post. Which, as near as I can tell, makes no attempt to somehow link Trump's Ban to the fact that there's been war in the Middle East for the last 100 years. (Not 10.) Did you actually have a point? (Other than "Hey, look at these videos"?) 3 minutes ago, visionary said: Wow. I'm surprised Trump Bannon hasn't thought of that. We really need to announce that we won't allow any international flight crews from our **** list to operate aircraft in our air space, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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s0crates Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Larry said: I chose not to look at them at all. And to read your post. Which, as near as I can tell, makes no attempt to somehow link Trump's Ban to the fact that there's been war in the Middle East for the last 100 years. (Not 10.) Did you actually have a point? (Other than "Hey, look at these videos"?) If you want to discuss the content I linked (which is directly relevant to the topic), then I'd be interested. If you want castigate me for my opinion without considering the information and arguments that support it, then there isn't much I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, visionary said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 'Massive success' We're skeptical of government claims about how any particularly controversial program/action/policy helps against terrorism. Wait until the trump admin starts pushing the numbers of attacks they've prevented, or the number of terrorists caught/denied entry/etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, tshile said: 'Massive success' We're skeptical of government claims about how any particularly controversial program/action/policy helps against terrorism. Wait until the trump admin starts pushing the numbers of attacks they've prevented, or the number of terrorists caught/denied entry/etc Well, now, I believe that someone has previously pointed out that the number of Americans killed on US soil, by immigrants from these countries, before Trump's Ban, was . . . zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Larry said: Well, now, I believe that someone has previously pointed out that the number of Americans killed on US soil, by immigrants from these countries, before Trump's Ban, was . . . zero. I was talking about all policies. Like, I can only imagine how absurd the next state of the union is going to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, visionary said: I'm wondering how these people are being released, within Trump's Ban. Did his EO have exceptions or procedures built into it? (And if so, why haven't we been told what they are, or even that they exist?) Or have people (which people?) simply decided not to follow his ban? Or has there been "clarification"? I'm certainly not complaining about releases. Just curious how they're happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Quote On Trump immigration executive order: "This isn't normal. Its not humane, its not thought through, its not necessary, its not wise, its not decent and above all, its not American." Eliot A. Cohen, Counselor in the United States Department of State under Condoleezza Rice and President George W. Bush Here's where that came from, but it's not what the post is about, pretty sure he's taken to posting this stuff to start his blog post recently (never seen him post anything political in all of my years reading his blog) http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2017/01/sunday-night-futures_29.html Edited January 30, 2017 by tshile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 It appears to me that the market is about to get tired of Trump. The immigration ban and then the Mexican tariff scare. The futures for tomorrow are down: http://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, tshile said: @Dan T. sign me up for thoughtless. I don't consider that enough when I think about the issue. Odd coinky-dinky. Name of my oft-used law firm is Thoughtless, Evil, and Cynical. Malpractice my ass. Those people were crazy before I got my hands on 'em. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Here's the second part: https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/825884423979749377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Important not to get distracted. What is trump doing in the background while we are fixated on this? NASA has been silenced, are there any new "moons" orbiting earth in the past few hours? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 minute ago, visionary said: Here's the second part: https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/825884423979749377 "Don't blame us! We don't intend to do anything about it. Not even speak out against it, much. But don't hold us responsible." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, redskins59 said: It appears to me that the market is about to get tired of Trump. The immigration ban and then the Mexican tariff scare. The futures for tomorrow are down: http://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/ Markets have been falling since last week. Hard to assign real meanings to movements much less futures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) GOP leadership that stands by and allows this to happen while doing nothing has their hands plenty dirty. They won't escape the repercussions of their actions simply because they didn't know as it was happening Edited January 30, 2017 by Momma There Goes That Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, Momma There Goes That Man said: GOP leadership that stands by and allows this to happen while doing nothing has their hands plenty dirty. They won't escape the repercussions of their actions Eh. Two days from now, this will all be old news. (He's gonna do something worse.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Larry said: "Don't blame us! We don't intend to do anything about it. Not even speak out against it, much. But don't hold us responsible." The gop sold its soul in the first 4 weeks after he won the primaries. They can all go kick rocks as far as I'm concerned. They knew what trump was and made a calculated decision to still support him. They cannot be allowed to wash their hands of him, even if they ultimately impeach him for incompetence. Edited January 30, 2017 by tshile 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Edited January 30, 2017 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, tshile said: The gop sold its soul in the first 4 weeks after he won the primaries. They can all go kick rocks as far as I'm concerned. They knew what trump was and made a calculated decision to still support him. They cannot be allowed to wash their hands of him, even if they ultimately impeach him for incompetence. GOP sold its soul early in the Tea Party days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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