BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Still boggles my mind that after all we fans have been thru, we still have some that so desperately don't want this stuff to be true, that they can overlook such glaring things such as this tweet by DJax and think it could be about anything other than the QB, given the timing. I knew the moment Robert started following up his "I suck" with "they suck too" that his run was done here. Nobody asked him whether the team sucked, he willingly gave that up in an effort to gloss over his own pathetic play. Definitely not a leader and for someone who has rode for him thru all this, it's just the cherry on my Redskins disappointment pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident2 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 So yeah, I was wrong. The team really didn't like those comments. Gruden just confirmed that. Yeesh...that locker room is probably awkward as hell Kudos for admitting it. Many felt this was going to be a problem as soon as we heard those comments, and suddenly it was "this means nothing" and "it's the media's fault," etc., etc. I know people don't want to revel in any more misery than we ALREADY have to deal with, but this is a BIG part of the problem. You could just hear Gruden's resignation when asked if Robert was starting Sunday. He SO doesn't want to deal with this guy anymore. And kudos to Gruden for coming out strong in rebuking Robert's comments publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Regardless, DJax is pretty wack for posting a "response" on Instagram. They aren't 17 year old girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The only person I ever met who can read my mind is my wife. With D-Jax, I'll either wait to hear who he's talking about in his memoirs or until the media drags it out of him. I want to believe he's not talking about RG3, so until I hear different, that's what I'll believe. There are plenty of "basic" (average to poor) players on this team that he could be thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The only person I ever met who can read my mind is my wife. With D-Jax, I'll either wait to hear who he's talking about in his memoirs or until the media drags it out of him. I want to believe he's not talking about RG3, so until I hear different, that's what I'll believe. There are plenty of "basic" (average to poor) players on this team that he could be thinking of. Listen to Jay's presser. He was talking about RG3. Honeymoon's over, the divorce papers are being drafted as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 But we weren't winning. The only stat that should matter to anyone is the W and L. At least we were in the games and could move the ball with ease where being down wasn't a monumental overtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooters Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Uh, so? The truth hurts. Basic, crappy football team. Is he wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Without trawling through with whom was 10 speaking? Because when I heard him on 980 talking to Sonny and co he was as self critical as I've ever heard him. Started off saying they all need to get better, and NOBODY can currently look themselves in the mirror and say they're doing their jobs to any significant degree; then turned the spotlight on himself and his glaring flaws he needs to work hard to correct. If that's the interview then Jackson needs to grow some thicker skin and accept at 3-7, having just got humiliated at home to a 1 win team coming off a bye; NOBODY is immune to criticism. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's probably not a good thing that our WRs hate our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 And I don't like my HC signalling out one guy when another has reacted like a prepubescent school girl on social media. Slam them both. Two wrongs never did make a right an that just compounds things and alienates guys further. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 And I don't like my HC signalling out one guy when another has reacted like a prepubescent school girl on social media. Slam them both. Two wrongs never did make a right an that just compounds things and alienates guys further. Hail. This is a good point and is what should have happened. Not good... Jay seems to be fed up with Robert and that seems to be a theme around here. Two head coaches, an offensive coordinator, and a couple of high-profile WRs seem to have grown weary of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 But we weren't winning. The only stat that should matter to anyone is the W and L. Griffin has ZERO wins this year, has led the team to the worst points per game of the 3 and yet he is starting. Apparently W and L don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think he is talking about the teams attitude.. This team believes they can do "epic Sh**" without having earned the right.. Just like after the Eagles game believing almost beating the eagles is somehow a good thing. He's right, and I have no issue with what he said.. The mentality has to change from Bruce on down.. Bruce needs to act like a GM who gives a **** less about the teams past and focus on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissident2 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I'm growing more and more disappointed with the Coach by the week. Every week we get his total post-game honesty. But he doesn't seem to have a clue how to either motivate and gel a cohesive, professional unit and fix the same tired old problems he weekly laments; or have the steel to come down hard on these jerks. Hail. I disagree. In fact, I feel like Gruden's approach is much, much closer to what we need to combat this horrible culture. Shanny was deceptive and you couldn't trust a word he said. Zorn was just a complete doofus and garnered no respect. Gruden's honesty is VERY welcome to me, and it should be welcomed by this team. He was VERY hard on Robert today, and that took some stones from my perspective. That should mean something to this locker room. It's all gotta start with honesty. Granted, I said "start." There's a ton more that needs to be done after that, obviously. But at this point, I'll take a worthwhile starting point to build off of and see how it progresses. One thing I think is becoming more and more clear: Gruden's offense has yet to have someone who can really run it competently and fully. Maybe that's partially on him as well, but there have been so many plays right there to be taken, and either Griffin or Cousins have not been able to take advantage. To me, Gruden is the least of our problems right now, and may be the best opportunity for us to find a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think he is talking about the teams attitude.. This team believes they can do "epic Sh**" without having earned the right.. Just like after the Eagles game believing almost beating the eagles is somehow a good thing. He's right, and I have no issue with what he said.. The mentality has to change from Bruce on down.. Bruce needs to act like a GM who gives a **** less about the teams past and focus on now Nope, talking about Robert. Confirmed by our head coach a little while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Gruden's honesty is VERY welcome to me, and it should be welcomed by this team. He was VERY hard on Robert today, and that took some stones from my perspective. That should mean something to this locker room. It's all gotta start with honesty. I haven't seen enough of Jay to rate him as a coach, but I think his honesty is very revealing. I believe that much of it is him protecting his future in the NFL. If he is going to stuck in this circus, he wants the rest of the NFL to know that what's going on is not his doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Well i can imagine how frustrated he is. This should be a vertical freaking passing team and we are getting check downs left and right. This is not what Djax signed up for. Exactly! We go out and get speedy receivers and then play dink and dunk, it aggravates me and I'm not the one running down the field for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldpost Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Exactly! We go out and get speedy receivers and then play dink and dunk, it aggravates me and I'm not the one running down the field for nothing. I have no problem with our best receiver and only true Pro Bowl player on offense other than Trent Williams, posting what he did.. Especially after Robert's presser and Morris comments on the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 DJax has busted his ass so far. This team has been a disgrace long before he came on board, so I don't get where he's apart of the problem. So far, he might be our only pro bowler, but HE'S apart of the problem? Unreal. Let's not forget that DJax just spoke up last week for the same QB who promptly threw him under the bus; along with the rest of the Offense yesterday. After not having watched film which means the QB doesn't know who played well and who didn't. Then he missed DJax for 3 TD's and couldn't even execute a simple screen towards the end. To have that QB, after he stunk yesterday, call you out would be enough to piss off anybody. I don't fault Jackson at all. However, I agree with Gruden that the twitter wars and crap needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyst21 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Is he wrong? With a basic, very basic QB. A basic OL. A very basic Defense. What are we gonna do? We gonna do basic stuff and expect epic. This team is epic though. An epic failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_ Skinshead Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Whatever...he's the least of my worries with this team. Agreed; Jackson performs on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Gadsden Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The last thing we should be concerned with right now is one of the only competent players on our team calling other players incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You can say whatever you want publicly. You just have to back it up on the field. If so, go ahead, tell what you think, you can say it. Those that disagee are generally those not producing enough. So, to me, DJax can say whatever he wants, he earned it this year. Hell, even Tress Way can say whatever he wants, guy is producing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qdeathstar Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 people he's telling the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 At least he speaks the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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