martytheman Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Funny, people here are happy to dump on another team's qb but have been up in flames for the last 2 years about people doing the same with RG3. Hypocrisy, how does it work again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Funny, people here are happy to dump on another team's qb but have been up in flames for the last 2 years about people doing the same with RG3. Hypocrisy, how does it work again? Do you really wanna compare the two's actions that have warranted the criticism? Manziel - Accused of breaking NCAA rules (receiving money) - Blows off being a member at the Manning Camp - Party animal (At other schools campuses, cocaine rumors in Vegas) - On field persona (Taunting/trash talk/obscene gestures) Robert - "Obnoxious" tshirts, sock wearer / slogan user. Yea.. Totally hypocritical to side with one vs the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Funny, people here are happy to dump on another team's qb but have been up in flames for the last 2 years about people doing the same with RG3. Hypocrisy, how does it work again? are you really comparing Manziel to RG3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martytheman Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 are you really comparing Manziel to RG3? No, read more carefully. I said people here are acting the same about Manziel that they've been crying about other fans talking about rg3, calling him names, hoping he gets beat up all season, hoping his career is a miserable failure etc. Regardless of what either guy did or didn't do, it's still hypocritical of this fanbase to whine and cry about how other fans talk bad about rg3, then sit here and do the exact same thing to another team's qb with the same amount of vitriol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 No, read more carefully. I said people here are acting the same about Manziel that they've been crying about other fans talking about rg3, calling him names, hoping he gets beat up all season, hoping his career is a miserable failure etc. Regardless of what either guy did or didn't do, it's still hypocritical of this fanbase to whine and cry about how other fans talk bad about rg3, then sit here and do the exact same thing to another team's qb with the same amount of vitriol. I got the impression people were more upset by "unfair" criticism aimed at Griffin. In other words, the constant rumors that he's a bad teammate against all the proof that he's a great leader on the team, and the denial of teammates and coaches. If Griffin were out partying all the time, rolling bills for lines, and giving the finger to the opposing bench, I don't think you'd hear as much crying. If Manziel had shown the potential to win rookie of the year and become an actual NFL QB, or if he's shown that he was in the least devoted to becoming a better QB, or even just taking his job seriously instead of looking like he figured all this would just be easy for him, then I think the criticism would be unfounded. So far, Manziel deserves the criticism he's getting, Griffin deserves some criticism for last season perhaps (though Shanahan deserves far more) but criticism of his character? I think most Skins fans expect fans of other teams to hate our QB, that's what happens after he shows he might be the next big thing. If Johnny Manziel were our QB, I'd expect the same thing. It's the media's unfair criticism against all the facts that is unjustified, not opposing fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Who are talking about? Johnny Clipboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGator Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Me thinks Rex will be starting sooner or later for the Browns. They have a decent OL and very good TE not to mention a likely suspended WR in Gordon. Hoyer has just had four starts and Manziel needs to grow up. I think Connor Shaw is better at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Kyle is getting the QB he deserves. Karma is a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazzaro703 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I agree i think this is sweet justice that Kyle is stuck with him. And when he fails, Kyle will be the first one to take the fall because of course it couldnt be Johnny Clipboards fault. They just said the main reason he isnt starting is his struggles with the playbook. Griffin took that playbook to the greastest rookie season for QBs in the history of the game. We shouldnt hear another word about Johnny Clipboard until he actually does something of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 When Kerrigan got his first sack, he and a couple other defensive players stood over Manziel and mocked him by doing his gesture of rubbing fingers together. It was clear they were going to rag on him all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 When Kerrigan got his first sack, he and a couple other defensive players stood over Manziel and mocked him by doing his gesture of rubbing fingers together. It was clear they were going to rag on him all game. I found it really hard to control my enthusiasm...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This Manziel kid reminds me of Ryan Leaf....don't know why. When things start to go south, watch out for that temper..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roanoker Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 After watching Hoyer and Johnny football's performance I was expecting Grossman to take the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGoonie55 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I understand all the criticisms of him. He's an obnoxious punk. But something about him makes me want to see him do well. I think I have a soft spot for Cleveland, all the crap the fans have been through, most of my in-laws are Browns fans, and I'd like to see them beat up on the Pats and Broncos. Football fans have seen what traits an elite QB have - Manziel has a long, long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Poor kid is getting so much heat, I almost feel bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 LOL....for a guy who has the microscope on him 24/7, this wasn't a good look. Rather than talking about how the Browns QB situation is about neck-and-neck, we're now going to hear about Manziel's lack of maturity from the ESPN hype machine for the next couple of days. Oh well...it is what it is. Still pulling for the kid. He's got a great chance in the next couple of weeks to win the starting job. Let's see how he rebounds. I'm probably one of like 5 people on this board who is with you on pulling for the guy, though he's not getting the gig any time soon. I just want at least one successful quarterback in this era that doesn't operate like a goddamn robot and has a life outside of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 No, read more carefully. I said people here are acting the same about Manziel that they've been crying about other fans talking about rg3, calling him names, hoping he gets beat up all season, hoping his career is a miserable failure etc. Regardless of what either guy did or didn't do, it's still hypocritical of this fanbase to whine and cry about how other fans talk bad about rg3, then sit here and do the exact same thing to another team's qb with the same amount of vitriol. man, you're talking to the wrong fans. the nfl fans that i talk to have never said they hope RG3 gets injured, or that he has a miserable career. you just gotta be friends with better, cooler nfl fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 No, read more carefully. I said people here are acting the same about Manziel that they've been crying about other fans talking about rg3, calling him names, hoping he gets beat up all season, hoping his career is a miserable failure etc. Regardless of what either guy did or didn't do, it's still hypocritical of this fanbase to whine and cry about how other fans talk bad about rg3, then sit here and do the exact same thing to another team's qb with the same amount of vitriol. That's an... let's call it 'interesting' definition of hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMarco Murray 29 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Thank god he is in Cleveland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Thank god he is in Cleveland! And I was SOOOOOO hoping Jerry would pick him!!! Damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Prediction: Rex Grossman will start a game this year before Manziel and Kyle will be fired after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Prediction: Rex Grossman will start a game this year before Manziel and Kyle will be fired after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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