Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Live on CNN now. https://twitter.com/NewsBreaker/status/397562395683323904/photo/1 Live coveragehttp://www.myfoxny.com/category/237002/skyfoxhd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Some reports that he's wearing scuba tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 My goodness this is never going to end. Watching the swat team prepare to enter the mall now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Gosh, I'm wondering now if news organizations should band together and never release any information about the shooters. I'm really thinking this might be the only solution Every crazy person with a gun wants their name up in lights nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 200 police units are on scene. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 My goodness this is never going to end. Watching the swat team prepare to enter the mall now. If these events weren't glorified, maybe people wouldn't see that it's a short trip to fame. Reporting is one thing but it has gone overboard. Every scumbag now gets their legit 5 minutes of fame. Hell, some even get a nice cover on Rolling Stone (which I actually thought was blown a bit out of proportion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 The state police said he was shooting out security cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Even from the small details leaking I'm pretty sure GTA will get some blame for this nuts actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Even from the small details leaking I'm pretty sure GTA will get some blame for this nuts actions. It's been a common theme with all these shootings. Lanza, Aurora shooting, etc. all these guys were obsessive gamers But as its been clearly explained to me, that doesn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's never any one thing when it comes to stuff like this. It's not just mentally ill people, it's not just video games, it's not just parenting, it's not just the current state of mental health care in this country, and it's not just America's glorified gun culture. It's always many issues together... Mainly a series of failed attempts (or no attempt at all) at correcting things with people who have issues, or a series of events that create a gigantic snowball effect, where any one thing could have potentially stopped it. To pretend that it's anything other than that, isn't really offering anything in terms of a productive conversation, and just provides a solid foundation for a good finger pointing session. And though I generally detest the media as a whole, I must have missed where they "Glorify" issues like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Depressing, terrifying, embarrassing time we 're living in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Paramus mayor says there was "confirmed single shot." They believe shooter has left mall. They found one shell casing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasCowboyFan156 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 From the eyewitnesses I've heard it doesn't seem like he was trying to kill people. They are saying that he never shot at or pointed the gun at anyone, only at mall security cameras. It's very strange and you have to wonder what the end goal was or is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Depressing, terrifying, embarrassing time we 're living in. Except for the part where violent crime has been going steadily downward for three decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 From the eyewitnesses I've heard it doesn't seem like he was trying to kill people. They are saying that he never shot at or pointed the gun at anyone, only at mall security cameras. It's very strange and you have to wonder what the end goal was or is. A witness on CNN is saying he was with some other guys and that he suited up in the mall. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/11/police_identify_suspect_in_paramus_mall_shooting.html PARAMUS — Police have preliminarily identified a suspect in the Westfield Garden State Plaza mall shooting, The Star-Ledger has learned. Two senior law enforcement officials identified the suspect as Richard Shoop. The officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity shortly after midnight, said Shoop was 20 years old and lives in Teaneck. The sources also said law enforcement agencies believed Shoop may still be in the vicinity of the mall this morning, and possibly still on the mall campus. Shoop, according to the sources, is employed at a restaurant in Teaneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Suspect found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound about an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikered30 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sounds like he didn't shoot at any one, just at the cameras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Wow, this is very sad. Life is so fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Except for the part where violent crime has been going steadily downward for three decades. which correlates to our prison population expansion and the 3 strikes laws....or we could just be getting nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's never any one thing when it comes to stuff like this. It's not just mentally ill people, it's not just video games, it's not just parenting, it's not just the current state of mental health care in this country, and it's not just America's glorified gun culture. It's always many issues together... Mainly a series of failed attempts (or no attempt at all) at correcting things with people who have issues, or a series of events that create a gigantic snowball effect, where any one thing could have potentially stopped it. To pretend that it's anything other than that, isn't really offering anything in terms of a productive conversation, and just provides a solid foundation for a good finger pointing session. And though I generally detest the media as a whole, I must have missed where they "Glorify" issues like this. Glorification doesn't have to be in a literal sense. which correlates to our prison population expansion and the 3 strikes laws....or we could just be getting nicer Actually, as moronic mandatory sentencing from the 1980s goes out the window, the violent crime/murder rate continues to drop. The answer is not throwing more people in prison for drug violations. Basically then they are surrounded by actual violent criminals. Except for the part where violent crime has been going steadily downward for three decades. Two decades, violent crime peaked in 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Except for the part where violent crime has been going steadily downward for three decades. I think that's great and obviously very relevant. Are there statistics on "random" incidents though? Not that it's necessarily better, but motivated violent crime is a little less troubling than random incidents where people just kill for fun or at random. I think what's so scary about these incidents is the fear that you could be playing with your kids at the park, shopping for shoes, or taking the subway to work and be a victim. So, violent crime is down which is fantastic (I'm not being sarcastic, by the way) but is there any metric that measures these random (attempted) killings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's been a common theme with all these shootings. Lanza, Aurora shooting, etc. all these guys were obsessive gamers But as its been clearly explained to me, that doesn't matter Grandpa ... first you blamed comic books, then it was rock and roll music, then rap music, then Hollywood and now video games. A more common theme in spree violence appears to be males immersed in American culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Even from the small details leaking I'm pretty sure GTA will get some blame for this nuts actions. He lives in NJ - outrageous property taxes are what set him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 He lives in NJ - outrageous property taxes are what set him off. Reality TV such as Jersey Shore and an embarrassingly obese Governor could be factors too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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