Dont Taze Me Bro Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO, pass rush was another huge problem for our team. We allowed QBs to get too comfortable which only exacerbated our weakness in coverage. Laron is pretty good near the line of scrimmage. He's a really good blitzer. Do, I think he would have made us a top ten defense? No... but I think we would have had a better showing. Better than third and 4th string safeties on the roster, maybe, but not by much and not enough to pay him what he wants. Doughty is good against the run and a better tackler, Landry tried going for the big hit and whiffed a bunch, giving up big plays. Not to mention his coverage skills are suspect. Not to mention that due to the injuries to Orakpo and Carriker, which killed our pass rush, they couldnt have blitzed him that often as it would put either Hall or Wilson on an island with no safety help. Blitzing the safety is a luxury where you need to already be able to generate a good/above average pass rush to maximize it's benefit. When we didn't have a pass rush 2-3 years ago, we all saw what happened when Laron blitzed or played too close to the line, our corners got burned. Just like we all saw what happened when we blitzed the CB and put Laron 1 on 1 with a WR with speed (see Jackson, Desean - Eagles blowout game on MNF). Thats the very reason why Hall didnt get to be utilized on some blitz packages like Haslet wanted him to last year, because we didnt have our best defensive players on the field and couldnt generate a pass rush. Id rather stick with Merriweather and see what he can do healthy if he can bounce back along with Jackson back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Better than third and 4th string safeties on the roster, maybe, but not by much and not enough to pay him what he wants. And that was pretty much my point. He was much better than what we put out there last year and nowhere in my posts have I advocated signing him to anything. After Sean Taylor was murdered, the coaches tried to convert Landry into a FS. That is not where he excels and that became very evident. He's too aggressive. When Shanahan got here, they moved him back to his natural position of SS and he played at a high level until he injured his achillies that year. He tried to play through it but they finally sat him down in that Eagles game. The injury problems persisted into the 2011 season. I think these types of injuries will persist for Landry for the reason I mentioned in my earlier post. That's one of the reasons why I want the Redskins to steer clear of him (not that I really thought there was a chance anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_328 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 no friggin' way.I'd sooner have Doughty out there for 16 games. ~Bang Speaking of which...was Doughty starting to turn into a beast the last half of this season? He was hitting harder than I ever remember seeing him since he has joined the skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 And that was pretty much my point. He was much better than what we put out there last year and nowhere in my posts have I advocated signing him to anything. Thats fine, but I was pointing out that it wouldnt have been much better than it already was due to the lack of pass rush and blitzing the safety isnt a luxury that you have when your D line and LBs cant get to the QB or open holes for said blitzer from the secondary. If teams ran the ball all day would LL be better than what we had stopping the run, yes, as long as he got them at the line of scrimage. But Im sure you can't deny that in open space, his run coverage got worse because he would rather lay them out than wrap and tackle. Because of that, Im gonna go out on a limb and say Doughty is better against the run, overall, than LL. So in our paticular situation last year, we were better off without LL, than with him. Stopping the run wasnt our biggest issue anyhow, it was the lack of a pass rush good enough to force the QB to get the ball out quickly before WRs/TEs picked our secondary apart and found holes/got open. Hell, I'll even go out on a limb and say that Doughty is better in pass coverage than LL. Both suck at it imo, but Doughty was more improved at it this season than in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 No, he wouldn't have helped us last season. That's what's the worst part is. Of course I don't think we would or should bring him back. But this post is about as delusional as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The inappropriate celebration times thing aside Merriweather and Jackson.... not expecting much next year. Reed looked really good shadowing Wilson. He may have found his perfect role. I wonder if Andrews recommended the knife. Based on his salary, prior, and our cap room, I think we will not touch him. LL at SS > FS is my preference though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_89 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I do believe LL has gone on record saying he does NOT respect Shanny or the staff here. I don't see either side wanting to try and work things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake88 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 But his biceps are huge!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Naaa. Even if he did come back, IMO it would only be for the money and I don't think that we do that anymore. We actually can't do that anymore. Merriweather and Jackson.... not expecting much next year. Reed looked really good shadowing Wilson. He may have found his perfect role.Why aren't you expecting much from Merriweather? In his first game of the season he was able to put together as many tackles in one half of football than Doughty was in four quarters of just about every game of the season. He matched Doughty's interception total also.I'm not taking anything away from Doughty, I just didn't understand your quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Maybe this recent picture of LaRon following one of his vigorous off season workout sessions will change some of your minds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 This ship has sailed, hit an iceberg, sunk and had a film which is at least an hour too long made about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 This ship has sailed, hit an iceberg, sunk and had a film which is at least an hour too long made about it. post of the thread award (POTTA).... I agree even though he's better than any of our safeties on the roster save for Merriweather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Should've traded him when we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Man, this is a tough one to wrap my head around in the morning. This is right up there with ebola tacos as far as great ideas go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He's a very similar player to Brandon Meriweather only he has a (negative) history with us. Why pay more for what we already have? Merriweather covers more earth, pass on this discount double flex. We would'nt and should'nt. Draft or sign young cheap potential. ---------- Post added February-15th-2013 at 07:54 AM ---------- This ship has sailed, hit an iceberg, sunk and had a film which is at least an hour too long made about it. Haahahhaaa,,,and this ship is all blown up faux version to begin with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'd rather slam my dick in a car door than see him back on the Skins. Actually wait, that's not true...I'd rather slam YOUR dick in a car door than see him back on the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwich Hog Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Ideal scenario for me: Landry signs with a decent AFC team. Gets to the Superbowl and Griffin eats him for breakfast all game :cloud9: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 no friggin' way.I'd sooner have Doughty out there for 16 games. ~Bang How about 19 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 laron dont like ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 NO and NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If I have to see him standing over top of people flexing at them after they just picked up 15+ yards on our defense I might throw up. Plus he has proven to be a dirtbag that isn't very good to begin with. I don't want him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 He didn't leave the Skins on fantastic terms, but that doesn't change the fact that the Skins need help at safety badly... That's the same situation we were in when he was on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 NO. I appreciate the time he was here, but now it is over. We are trying to change the culture and signing a big name free agent only looking for the big pay day would be setting all the work Shanahan and Allen have done over the past few years. Landry was good and bad here and he still holds some ill feelings here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtyquinn Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Absolutely not. He can't cover, constantly goes for the blow up hit and is frequently out of position. He plays like Gary Fencik in the Bears 46 defense but this is a passing league and if you can't cover you're a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diss Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 N-O. All I needed to know about Landry I saw on a piece of behind-the-scenes Redskins footage a couple years ago. It was pre-game, and the entire secondary was in a huddle, arms entwined with each other, chanting, getting themselves worked up, all except one ... SuperDouche. He was standing away from his teammates, outside of the huddle, standing totally still, apparently wanting nothing to do with the sense of "all for one and one for all" they were trying to build. This guy is the epitome of the kind of guy we DON'T want on this team EVER AGAIN. All about himself, couldn't care less about the team he's on or his teammates, just wants the attention of a big hit and a big payday. Screw SuperDouche. He does remind me of a Hall of Fame player in one way, though. Whenever I look at him, I think "bust." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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