JMS Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 They are kinda cleaning house at Fox aren't they... First Sarah Palin, now Dick Morris few months ago Judge Napolitano... Parting ways with some of their most partisan talking heads. http://www.mstarz.com/articles/8197/20130206/fox-news-fires-dick-morris-mitt-romney-landslide-prediction-gets-political-commentator-canned.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Maybe they're no longer going to be the network of stupid......or is that just too much to hope for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Hope lies in the smoldering rubble of empires... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Morris stays on point, though, and blames those pesky minorities who can't get it right. To get what the Fox is really up to with any face-lift (like you have any doubt) see the Weds DS episode, where, as usual, they blatantly show who they are even while still trying to pretend they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I read he's going to CNN this morning (who has been cleaning house as well due to abysmal ratings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I read he's going to CNN this morning (who has been cleaning house as well due to abysmal ratings) If MSNBC and Fox can justifiably be used as examples of crazy-funny-sad-stupid uber-bias (primarily, propaganda leaf-blowers for the left & right), then CNN can be used to as an example of impotence and incompetence (still with a mild lefty swing). Unless I am at another's home, I haven't watched any of these networks for many months now other than for very limited times for very specific reasons. I don't even think to turn them on to "see what's up" or for any other typical viewing reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 If MSNBC and Fox can justifiably be used as examples of crazy-funny-sad-stupid uber-bias (primarily, propaganda leaf-blowers for the left & right), then CNN can be used to as an example of impotence and incompetence (still with a mild lefty swing). Unless I am at another's home, I haven't watched any of these networks for many months now other than for very limited times for very specific reasons. I don't even think to turn them on to "see what's up" or for any other typical viewing reason. True enough. I think so many of them have jumped the shark regards any kind of credibility. Consuming news online is so much more efficient. Dick Morris quite possibly has THE most annoying voice I think I've ever had the displeasure of hearing btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 CNN doesn't even count anymore.. seriously,, they dismantled their entire investigative journalism department saying that there is no story anywhere that can't be discovered, vetted, and verified through the internet. How anyone can call themselves a news organization while operating like that is beyond me. By that standard, our man Hap is a news organization. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Finally. I don't care if you are left wing or right wing or duck wing or hospital wing, one thing we should all be able to agree upon is that Dick Morris is the worst hack of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 CNN doesn't even count anymore.. seriously,, they dismantled their entire investigative journalism department saying that there is no story anywhere that can't be discovered, vetted, and verified through the internet.How anyone can call themselves a news organization while operating like that is beyond me. By that standard, our man Hap is a news organization. ~Bang Pointing out that I think ES has a better record for spotting, and quashing, BS stories, than most "major news organizations". ---------- Post added February-7th-2013 at 12:53 PM ---------- Finally. I don't care if you are left wing or right wing or duck wing or hospital wing, one thing we should all be able to agree upon is that Dick Morris is the worst hack of them all. Now, I think there's stiff competition for that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Finally. I don't care if you are left wing or right wing or duck wing or hospital wing......... I'm stealing your "wings of a feather" line, P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Now, I think there's stiff competition for that title. I don't know about that . Andrew Sullivan summed it up well for me. A couple years ago, Media Matters looked at how Morris uses bad information to make money. After reading it, the Dick Morris business model becomes clear: 1) Make ridiculous prediction on TV or elsewhere. 2) Get gullible victims of confirmation bias who saw erroneous prediction to sign up for your newsletter 3) Send gullible audience spam. 4) Profit! Because Morris is willing to go further than other hacks, he is often exclusively wrong about a subject, which only drives more traffic to him. I've no idea whether or not Morris believes what he predicts, but, regardless, his wrongness as a pundit is without equal. There is no one in politics I trust less. http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2012/08/09/americas-premiere-snake-oil-salesman/ ---------- Post added February-7th-2013 at 12:25 PM ---------- I'm stealing your "wings of a feather" line, P. Whistler: "The only think worse than being witty is not being witty." *10 seconds of sycophantic laughter ensues* Wilde: "I wish I had said that." Whistler: "You will Oscar, you will." *20 seconds of sycophantic laughter ensues* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 If MSNBC and Fox can justifiably be used as examples of crazy-funny-sad-stupid uber-bias (primarily, propaganda leaf-blowers for the left & right), then CNN can be used to as an example of impotence and incompetence (still with a mild lefty swing). Unless I am at another's home, I haven't watched any of these networks for many months now other than for very limited times for very specific reasons. I don't even think to turn them on to "see what's up" or for any other typical viewing reason. On MSNBC... I really enjoy Rachael Maddow ( I think she's the smartest anchor on TV today) and Laurence Odonell is very watchable... both are partisan as hell though.. They are also guilty pleasures more than news sources because after listening to them, you really need to corroborate what they tell you before entering into your information pool. Not because they are wrong but because what they report on sometimes is so down in the weeds it doesn't even register with the public at large and listening to these guys you will think it's the next Watergate. Still smart, well informed... interesting, they make you think...... I will tolerate Chris Matthews in short doses... On Fox, I like Lou Dobbs long time watcher... CNN... are they still broadcasting.. haven't watched anybody over there since Larry King retired. painful. Dick Morris isn't going to help them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Isn't Dick Morris the guy who used to book a DC hotel room to suck the toes of a prostitute back when he worked in the Clinton administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Isn't Dick Morris the guy who used to book a DC hotel room to suck the toes of a prostitute back when he worked in the Clinton administration? Yeah that's the guy..... he also allowed the "prostitute" Sherry Rowlands(*) to listen in on his calls with the President to impress her... which is what actually got him fired..... I mean nobody got fired under Clinton for sucking a few extra marital toes. (*) Prostitute is in quotes.. because hey Dick was paying for her... but his relationship with the woman had gone on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I don't know about that . Andrew Sullivan summed it up well for me. Isn't that the same business model Ann Coulter uses? On MSNBC... I really enjoy Rachael Maddow ( I think she's the smartest anchor on TV today) and Laurence Odonell is very watchable... both are partisan as hell though.. They are also guilty pleasures more than news sources because after listening to them, you really need to corroborate what they tell you before entering into your information pool. Not because they are wrong but because what they report on sometimes is so down in the weeds it doesn't even register with the public at large and listening to these guys you will think it's the next Watergate. Still smart, well informed... interesting, they make you think...... I will tolerate Chris Matthews in short doses... Hey, my main source of news is Stewart and Colbert, so take of that what you will. To be honest, you should verify with any news source, particularly nowadays with all the rush to be first, there isn't a whole lot of time spent being right. I don't mind there being people in news with points of view and making arguments as to why their points of view should be taken. The problem comes when that gets mistaken for real news, which it sometimes is on Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 To be honest, you should verify with any news source, particularly nowadays with all the rush to be first, there isn't a whole lot of time spent being right. I don't mind there being people in news with points of view and making arguments as to why their points of view should be taken. The problem comes when that gets mistaken for real news, which it sometimes is on Fox. Yeah you are probable right.. Gone are the days of Edward R. Murrow, or Walter Cronkite where you could not only trust the source but everybody was watching the same source.... So if they reported it as a big deal, it would get consideration as a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Karma in action for the ex-Democrat Morris. Dick by name ..... Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 You know you're wearing the dunce hat when Fox News says you're too dumb to be on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzwiz Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 isn't dick morris the guy who used to book a dc hotel room to suck the toes of a prostitute back when he worked in the clinton administration? laugh.....out.....loud.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I'm guessing this has something to do with the housecleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Didn't O'Reilly rant about NBC not covering the Drone story when they were the ones who broke the memo story and had it all over their website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I think I might be the only person still watching CNN, though I only watch bits of Out Front and AC360. The daytime stuff is idiotic and banal, and Piers Morgan drags out the same topics ad nauseam.....weeks of asking every friggin person in showbiz about Whitney Houston....now every show is about guns. Still, foreign correspondents like Ben Wedeman (though his queenish drone of a voice is severely irritating) and Arwa Damon(sp?) Are a cut above others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'm guessing this has something to do with the housecleaning. The low viewer ratings yes, the new low in being trusted, :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 They are kinda cleaning house at Fox aren't they... First Sarah Palin, now Dick Morris few months ago Judge Napolitano...Parting ways with some of their most partisan talking heads. http://www.mstarz.com/articles/8197/20130206/fox-news-fires-dick-morris-mitt-romney-landslide-prediction-gets-political-commentator-canned.htm I agree with you about Dick Morris being due for firing, but I can't agree with you about Palin or Napolitano. I don't watch Fox, but IMO Palin was a good choice for them since they are not shy about their pro-Republican bias and she is a leader within the party. She also is an interesting figure to have on Fox because while she is sort of "establishment", she also sort of isn't. She seems more independent-minded than a lot of the people they put on their shows. Napolitano is about as partisan as Ron Paul - technically he's a member of one party but his views often conflict with those of his own party and his reasoning is usually something that's worthwhile to hear because it's based in philosophical ideology rather than partisan nonsense or pragmatism, which is 95% of what we hear from other media sources. I don't think they got rid of him due to his partisanship - I think it was the other way around. Republicans can't have a guy on the air doing stuff like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvRWjFLvXZI - at least not on their dime. I am glad they picked up Kucinich, though. That has potential to create some great debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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