Brotherz Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Suffice it to say Reed isn't nearly the weak link in the defense everyone likes to make him out to be. I don't know how anyone who watches our team on any kind of a consistent basis can actually say this. In my opinion, this team hasn't turned the corner until a player like Reed Doughty is no longer on it. Before I get jumped for that, let me say that I think he's a great guy. He's a smart player. I think he has great work ethic and from all accounts he is a team guy through and through. He just can't play. Period. He just isn't athletic enough. I am consistently stunned that I see this guy playing back there week in and week out, year in and year out. I think he flat out can't play. He gets juked out of his jock repeatedly. He is always late to the ball. He is too slow. He's just not good enough. He isn't. I don't even know how people can debate that. Drew brees and co will absolutely eat us alive if he is starting at safety this weekend. Now, maybe we can say it wouldn't have been enormously different with merriweather. That seems fair but the overall point is Reed Doughty is exactly what's wrong with our franchise right now. Its the inverse of Albert Haynseworth who was super talented but a terrible human being. Reed is a terrible talent and a great human being. I would be FASCINATED to see if he actually got cut from our team if he would be in the league. Seriously. That is how bad I feel about reed doughty's play. Again, love rooting for the guy as a person. But I literally cringe at the thought of him covering ANYONE on the saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Remind me again why we let Laron Landry go? Because he is bonehead, not a safety. ---------- Post added September-5th-2012 at 06:35 PM ---------- TOUCHDOWN DREW BREES!Why do I feel like I will be hearing that all day Sunday. . . . http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/03/Drew-Brees1.jpg Well you were going to hear it anyway because our secondary was not very good to begin with and frankly I think we are still in the same position - our secondary is still not very good. However the silver lining here is the hope that our D line and LB can put pressure on Bree's and stifle his productivity a bit. But realistically I think Bree's will have his way with our secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sknsnation Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Tough loss, We could'nt buy a break at that position if they were selling them two for a nickel. HTTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I don't know how anyone who watches our team on any kind of a consistent basis can actually say this. In my opinion, this team hasn't turned the corner until a player like Reed Doughty is no longer on it. Before I get jumped for that, let me say that I think he's a great guy. He's a smart player. I think he has great work ethic and from all accounts he is a team guy through and through. He just can't play. Period. He just isn't athletic enough. I am consistently stunned that I see this guy playing back there week in and week out, year in and year out. I think he flat out can't play. He gets juked out of his jock repeatedly. He is always late to the ball. He is too slow. He's just not good enough. He isn't. I don't even know how people can debate that. Drew brees and co will absolutely eat us alive if he is starting at safety this weekend. Now, maybe we can say it wouldn't have been enormously different with merriweather. That seems fair but the overall point is Reed Doughty is exactly what's wrong with our franchise right now. Its the inverse of Albert Haynseworth who was super talented but a terrible human being. Reed is a terrible talent and a great human being. I would be FASCINATED to see if he actually got cut from our team if he would be in the league. Seriously. That is how bad I feel about reed doughty's play. Again, love rooting for the guy as a person. But I literally cringe at the thought of him covering ANYONE on the saints. If he was as bad as you say he wouldn't have survived three coaches and be one of the longest tenured redskins. He does his job. He's great at special teams and great at run support. If you're thinking any backup strong safety in the league can deny megatron or Andre Johnson a touchdown with ease then you should try following other teams more often. That being said he IS a liability in coverage and I don't expect him to be in the majority of plays against any pass happy teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Wonder if we might have interest in former Colt's Melvin Bullitt. I know he is injury prone but he isn't a bad player WHEN healthy. We need all the help we can get at S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Good god, damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Oh man, better pick up Brees in fantasy this week.---------- Post added September-5th-2012 at 04:22 PM ---------- He did'nt want to be here. If Brees is still available in your league, it must not be a very good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifthorkid88 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 You asked this.......really? Remind me again why we let Laron Landry go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 We've had Landry, Atogwe, Merriweather and T. Jackson on the roster between last year and now. Somehow were starting Williams and Gomes. What would it have hurt to extend Atogwe for cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 We've had Landry, Atogwe, Merriweather and T. Jackson on the roster between last year and now. Somehow were starting Williams and Gomes. What would it have hurt to extend Atogwe for cheap? I think Atogwe was released because of injury from the Eagles. I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 We've had Landry, Atogwe, Merriweather and T. Jackson on the roster between last year and now. Somehow were starting Williams and Gomes. What would it have hurt to extend Atogwe for cheap? Dude, Atogwe isn't even on an NFL roster right now. Last 8 games of last season, we started a combination of Doughty/Gomes/Barnes at the safety spots. Was it pretty? No, but it also wasn't the primary reason we went 2-6 in those games. The safeties (yes, even Landry and OJ) sucked last year and they'll suck again this year. We are no worse off on the back end than we were for the majority of last season (one could even argue that 2nd year Gomes and the corpse of Madieu Williams are marginally better than 2011 Doughty/Gomes). Meriweather (and even Jackson) weren't ever going to be the difference between winning and losing this game. Like NLC said, limiting Brees is all about pressure. If the front seven doesn't do that, it won't matter who is at safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I think Atogwe was released because of injury from the Eagles. I think? Yea, I just looked it up and he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Man up, suck it up, rub some dirt in it, and play ball. Drew Brees is a great player and this makes little difference. Go play and let the chips fall where they may. You can never think of this as a player-you play through-in HS and College (I assume the pro's are the same). Do you really think Meriweather makes that much of a difference? Is the drop off that significant....really???? Imho, absolutely NOT! If it was Fletch, Williams, Garcon, RGIII, Kerrigan, Blah-blah-blah, yea. They are without their TOP rushing DE, Vilma, and Vilma's replacement is dinged up. Do you realize we are actually kind of blessed health wise? Think about it. Our entire Oline almost intact (and hear Kory feels very good), starting fullback back and feeling strong. They are at more of an disadvantage than us for different reasons. We are such a wonderful and sensitive fanbase. Go fight Redskins and fight hard. HTTR :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybrant Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 All the more reason to get to Brees before he has a chance to pick apart our secondary. Orakpo, Kerrigan, Fletcher, Carriker, etc. need to get in his face and make him wish he played another position. I have faith in my team and believe they can get it done. Sucks that this happened but we can make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chet06 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Doughty vs Jimmy Graham. Ugly. oh my god....Doughty is a nice guy why put him through this...it could end his caeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURKEYTALKER Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I think all we need to do is get in the new refs ears before the game and remind them how the saints are a bunch of thugs (bounty gate) and how all their recivers push off on every pass play and maybe we get a couple calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeluCopter29 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 We need to fire the training staff. These injuries are getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bc he isn't that good at playing football. He's looked pretty good for the Jets so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I think Hall would do well as a free safety. The ball is in front of him, he is a bigger guy with speed. His tackling has some holes, but I think he could easily convert. Plus, the guy is a ball hawk, at least for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 We get it. The sky is ****ing falling. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I'm not saying that we should be playing for the future before the season even starts, but isn't most of this season about our young offense developing and gelling together? If we have struggles in the defensive backfield this year, I don't think anyone will be shocked...and that was before we lost a couple safeties. We know that we need defensive backs and offensive linemen before we will compete for the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 We need to fire the training staff. These injuries are getting ridiculous. Not sure what training staff is going to prevent players from landing awkwardly during live action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Not sure what training staff is going to prevent players from landing awkwardly during live action. The only good training staff is the one that prevents ALL injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The only good training staff is the one that prevents ALL injuries. NO TEAM has the injuries we have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 NO TEAM has the injuries we have! Nope, we are the only team with injuries and who get screwed by refs. Also, bad bounces always go against us and we never catch a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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