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Washington Post: Texas Governer Rick Perry running for President in 2012

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twa

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twa posted a link showing that 73% of all new jobs in the United States came from Texas. Obviously, both Perry and Obama would like to take credit for those jobs. If you're going to bust on Perry for the quality of Texas' jobs, you're also saying that the vast majority of jobs Obama has been taking credit for aren't any good either.

Let me add another link to further address concerns about Texas employment and the distortions being put out

disprove them if ya can :evilg:

warning facts and chart heavy

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

My point is to show that most of the "excuses" you will hear about Texas' job statistics are based in nothing more than a hope that Rick Perry had nothing to do with them and not on a sound understanding of the data.

My advice to anti-Perry advocates is this: Give up talking about Texas jobs. Texas is an incredible outlier among the states when it comes to jobs. Not only are they creating them, they're creating ones with higher wages.

add a bonus for Evil Genius

http://www.nationalreview.com/exchequer/274695/paul-krugman-still-wrong-about-texas

What sort of workers are likely to earn minimum wage or less than minimum wage? Disproportionately, teenagers and illegal immigrants. You will not be surprised to learn that just as Texas has many times as many illegals as New York or Massachusetts, and it also has significantly more 16-to-19-year-old workers than either state.

Another important fact that escapes Krugman: The fact that a large number of workers make minimum wage, combined with a young and immigrant-heavy population and millions of new jobs, may very well mean that teens and others who otherwise would not be working at all have found employment. That is a sign of economic strength, not of stagnation. New York and Massachusetts would be better off with millions of new minimum-wage workers — if that meant millions fewer unemployed people.

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see add above

also from the 1st link

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/WagesIncrease.png

"And it turns out that the opposite is true. Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation.

As a side note, the only blue state that has faster growing wages is Hawaii. Just thought I'd get that jab in since so many people have been making snarky "Yeah, I could get a job in Texas is I wanted to flip burgers!" comments at me on Twitter."

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Again - http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2010tbls.htm#3

Texas has an estiamted 12.6% of employed wage and salary workers paid hourly rates with earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage.

The next closest state, New York, has 6.1%

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edit - I am open to anyone that can explain how that isn't a problem for Texas.

It's them pesky minorities.

When you're talking about wages, you should ignore them.

(Of course, when you're talking about numbers of jobs, well, then they count).

:).

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see add above

also from the 1st link

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/WagesIncrease.png

"And it turns out that the opposite is true. Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation.

As a side note, the only blue state that has faster growing wages is Hawaii. Just thought I'd get that jab in since so many people have been making snarky "Yeah, I could get a job in Texas is I wanted to flip burgers!" comments at me on Twitter."

13.3% in 2009 <-- http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2009tbls.htm#3

11.8% in 2008 <-- http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2008tbls.htm#3

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You have a problem with people working?...If so,don't move here :)

I would imagine the stock market collapse created a incentive to supplement some incomes as well.

ya cannot ignore that wages are rising here no matter how hard you try

---------- Post added August-16th-2011 at 06:29 PM ----------

perhaps we should make a compromise, count them as 3/5ths for all categories

Or play the Obama/Dem game and just count them when they need their vote :ols:

How do you minorities outside Texas like your unemployment numbers?

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I thought Romney had all the money. That puts Perry at 2nd unless he could catch up.

OUCH,that's gonna leave a mark

"It Is Over For Mitt Romney"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/16/nh_political_analyst_it_is_over_for_mitt_romney.html

Jennifer Donahue, a public policy fellow at the Eisenhower Institute and former political director of the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College, called Mitt Romney a "beleaguered front-runner" and said that the GOP presidential race is now Rick Perry's to lose.

"He can match Romney dollar for dollar no matter how much money Romney spends," she said. "It is over for Mitt Romney."

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I like that attitude, see what each brings to the table while driving libs nuts :D

besides ya never know if there might be another Reagan/Bush merge

In all honesty, the only guy I couldn't couldn't stand is out (Pawlenty), so i'm just going along for the ride until stuff heats up again closer to the end of the year hahaha

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Duckus

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I don't have much to add to the thread, but...

This guy is gay, correct?

It has been rumored for years here in Austin . . . but never anything more than rumors. I don't think he is. He has been around for wayyyyyyyyy to long for anything like that to suddenly pop-up.

However, I have been told by someone I completely trust and who has been a phenomenal source in the past that their is something coming out soon. Personally, I don't believe it but he seemed confident in his info.

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It has been rumored for years here in Austin . . . but never anything more than rumors. .

With all the light in the loafer crowd in Austin it might just be wishful thinking....or a crush

they don't call him Crotch for nothing :pfft:

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Or play the Obama/Dem game and just count them when they need their vote :ols:

How do you minorities outside Texas like your unemployment numbers?

Well since there's no chance of me working in TX then I have to say infinitely better :ols:

Same way people feared Palin...everytime I hear this moronic statement about stupid politicians I luagh...sure poeple are "scared" of Perry....in whatever world you live in

yeah and look what happened to Palin....

though I do think "The Left" feared Palin, and maybe even Perry, but apparently fear is a really good way of motivating people into action... in politics no less, whodathunkit.

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mardi gras skin

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It's them pesky minorities.

When you're talking about wages, you should ignore them.

(Of course, when you're talking about numbers of jobs, well, then they count).

:).

I don't see how Obama can go after Perry on the quality of jobs in Texas. If Texas wasn't such a dominant job engine for the past 4 years, I could see it. But Obama needs to tout those Texas job numbers as much as Perry does.

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Same way people feared Palin...everytime I hear this moronic statement about stupid politicians I laugh...sure poeple are "scared" of Perry....in whatever world you live in

Oh. So now he's "stupid".

Cant you guys come up with new attacks? You trudge out the same tired lines every election cycle.

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Oh. So now he's "stupid".

Cant you guys come up with new attacks? You trudge out the same tired lines every election cycle.

"Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend. Most liberal man in the Senate. Socialism. Socialism. Class warfare. Rrawrk".

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Serious question... what role, if any, did Perry have in the re-writing history in the Texas school books that happened not that long ago?

None really. That was the SBOE - School Board of Education. They are regionally are elected officials.

I am not sure if he ever made any public statements regarding it. I doubt it.

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Lombardi's_kid_brother

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Serious question... what role, if any, did Perry have in the re-writing history in the Texas school books that happened not that long ago?

The dirty little secret of Texas politics is that the governor actually has very little direct power. Truthfully, the most powerful people in the State are the Railroad Commissioners because they are the ones who regulate the oil and gas industry. The Lt. Governor may actually be more powerful because he/she runs the Senate and doesn't necessarily have to be from the same party as the Governor. The Texas School Board is - obviously - extremely powerful as well and they are independently elected.

The way to think of Perry is not as a governor but as the boss of a Political Machine. George W. Bush was high profile as governor, but my understanding is that he really didn't do the political work that the governor has time to do. Perry gets his people elected. And once elected, they do his bidding.

So, did Perry personally oversee the requirements of the history books? No. But he did appoint a Young Earth creationist (Don McLeroy) to be chair of the board. (That appointment was actually defeated by the Senate). So, you tell me where does he stand on the controversy?

The grand achievement of Perry's time as governor is going to be the redistricting work at both the federal and state level. It's going to be increasingly difficult for Democrats to win seats in the House of Representatives going forward. And it is going to be extremely difficult for any minorities to win election at the state level. And this is happening at a time when Dallas, Houston, and Austin are all becoming increasingly Democratic and the state is now officially minority-majority. So, basically, the largest population centers are going to be the least represented and the largest population groups are going to be largely unrepresented. That is Perry's achievement.

This state is now filled from top to bottom with politicians who owe Perry their careers. He is basically a Mayor Daley figure - except the mayor of Chicago had almost total autonomy. Perry has achieved that level of power through influence, time, and crony capitalism.

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