mikeumd Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I saw this on another forum but this is the scenario Pats have 2 picks in each of the first 3 rounds. Lets assume they win the SB. This would put them at picks 17,32,33,62,74,94. Scenario #1: Lets say the Pats want our #10 pick and the #17 pick they will not part with. What would you ask for in exchange? Would #32 and #33 do it? Would you take #33 as well as #74 & #94? What combinations would be enough to make us trade down . Scenario #2: Lets say they are willing to part with #17 as well as any of the others in the first 3 rounds. What deal would you accept? Rules: This must be a "fair" trade in that the value must be reasonable (i.e. - no saying "Thai I'll trade #10 for all of their picks") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The 10th is worth the 17th and 32 or 33rd. There is no trade scenario for the 10th that the Skins should accept that does not include the 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzzfan25 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 #10 and our 5th for #17, 62, 94 Would do it, seems fair for all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You need to ask yourself......did the Patriots ever make a trade where they didn´t rip there trade partner. If they want to trade there must be someone special. It all depends who is availible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The 10th is worth the 17th and 32 or 33rd.There is no trade scenario for the 10th that the Skins should accept that does not include the 17th. Not only that, there is no way the Pats make that trade. Why would they give up 3 picks to move up 7 spots? They've never been the type of team to move that aggressively for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The only scenario that wouldn't include the 17th is if they gave the 32nd, 33rd, another of their 2nd rounders AND their 1st next year. But who are we kidding? They will find somebody to trade their 17th and move down and down and down. Get great players and a million picks for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 damn, that would be frigin sweet ... would love to have that kind of draft ammo ... especially if we could also trade Dmac, Haynesworhtless and ACarter for additional picks. I'd definitely do #17, #62 and #94 for our #10 ... they'd still have like 8 picks in the first three rounds, and we could potentially find another starter or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 It all depends on who is there at 10, if there is no one the team likes I am all for a trade down, but if there is a can't miss player we have to take him at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I tell them to pound sand. They are the Pats and it's always good to tell them to pound sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo3 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 May I ask why this is even being asked?? are we just bored and want to play the what if game or do you have some type of inside info that you would like to share... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 For me to make that trade with them, it'd take their entire draft. But that's just me & I really hate those ****ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOSS89 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 For me to make that trade with them, it'd take their entire draft. But that's just me & I really hate those ****ers. They have this weird mojo where they win EVERY trade. Every. Single. One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You need to ask yourself......did the Patriots ever make a trade where they didn´t rip there trade partner. If they want to trade there must be someone special.It all depends who is availible. Bingo! I'm not sure I would ever make a trade with the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I tell them to pound sand. They are the Pats and it's always good to tell them to pound sand. poor sand, with all the film the pats have it wouldnt stand a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Has "The Hood" ever given an opposing franchise an advantage ever? He is that wily ole' sea captain that knows before you know...he will also cheat to win. Belichick is a modern disciple of Sun Tzu's Art of War. Stay away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 But who are we kidding? They will find somebody to trade their 17th and move down and down and down. Get great players and a million picks for the future. That they'll just keep trading until Brady and their core players retire. Then they'll be able to completely reload in one offseason, even if they trade up to get a player they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Id ask for Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 For me to make that trade with them, it'd take their entire draft. But that's just me & I really hate those ****ers. Took the words out of my keyboard. I'd want to stick it to them like we stuck it to Mike D and the Saints when they wanted Williams that year. If you want it you gonna pay out the freaking nose for it or GTFO. I hate the damn Patriots sorry cheating pieces of **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I really like all the defensive prospects that are going to be available where we pick. They would probably have to give us #17, #32 or #33, and #74 or a trade of later picks or something. As previously said though, I don't see the Patriots doing that and given their type of success we'd end up with all scrubs and they'd get a perennial all-star. I actually like our draft picks though as long as we don't spend our 1st rounder on a Quarterback not named Gabbert (Luck obviously is not going to be there and I don't think Gabbert will be either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 If Gabbert is still on the Board I tell them thanks but no thanks, if he has gone (and Luck is long gone) I make that trade. But the Pats trade down not up as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Under no circumstances, ever, eva EVA EVA......trade with the Patriots. It's like crossing Keyzer Soze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasjhughes Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You need to ask yourself......did the Patriots ever make a trade where they didn´t rip there trade partner. If they want to trade there must be someone special.It all depends who is availible. Exactly. If they want the #10 we need to figure out who they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You need to ask yourself......did the Patriots ever make a trade where they didn´t rip there trade partner. If they want to trade there must be someone special.It all depends who is availible. A 3rd rounder for Duane Starks, a 5th for Doug Gabriel. Most of their draft day deals are standard, they often take less than full value (like the Jerod Mayo trade-down). They tried desperately to trade uo for Vernon Carey.They aren't infallible. If it's a trade that makes sense for us, do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCitySkin Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The Pats have no reason to make that trade. The good news for us is that there are plenty of teams that need help on defense that would be willing to trade up for one of those top 10 D-linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Well, let's consult the "official" NFL draft trade value chart. Here are the values for each pick for 2011: 10 - 1300 17 - 950 32 - 590 33 - 580 62 - 284 74 - 220 94 - 124 So a "fair" trade would be our 10 for their 17, 74 and 94. Personally....I would insist on the 17 and 32/33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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