StillUnknown Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Any chance we get the #1 pick again? also are there any dominant Centers comming out, too early in the season for me to follow college bball closely Enes Kanter is probably the best center that will be available, even though he's not in playing for kentucky. I've only seen very limited film of him but the different scouting reports i've read make him out to be someone who's worth a serious look At this rate we're a virtual lock for top 5 pick, its a draft heavy on sg/sf, but no clear cut obvious choice for who should go #1 overall Edited January 6, 2011 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 So when do we win on the road this year? My bet is this saturday in charlotte. If not saturday, then Feb. 13th might be the next closest at cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 No sticks. And I mean this with all respect. I was 20. living in DC. I had just seen the glory years of the Bullets. Elvin. Wes Unseld. The good days.This **** needs to be blown up. Sky high. Can anyone justify the HC having a job right now? Seriously? Can you name one thing this coach brings to this team? Get him the **** out of town. Don't drink and drive. Or make stock predictions. I have watched this team since they won their championship THIRTY years ago. Not sure how you try to call me out. Basketball as a TEAM sport is a JOKE. It's all about who gets the best player. The lottery is a JOKE too. Coaching has less to do w/regards to success in the NBA than any other sport. Shipping Flip out of town wont make the Wizards a better team. You know that, I know that, Michael Wilbon knows that. In the NBA, franchises are built on the top 3 or 4 players in all of the NBA. Everyone else is out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) The reality behind the horrendous state of this franchise clears up more and more after every game. This team in its current state is absolutely terrible. A lot of work needs to be done. IMO besides Wall, Young and McGee, we don't have any reliable players. I think Booker and Seraphin will eventually be guys who can provide good back up minutes. Blatche needs to be traded. Not only is he bad on the court, but his lifestyle of the court can do some great damage to a lot of young players on this team. I know there are people who afraid of another Webber like situation, but Blatche doesn't have an ounce of talent that C-Web had. Blatche is a ****ing pansy. We need to nail it with our upcoming lottery pick. If we bust on this pick, we are screwed for another few years. Ted has a lot of image cleaning to do to make this team attractive to free agents. Sometimes it's exciting to watch a young team develop, but I don't see a whole lot of development going on right now. Everything has hit stalemate, the players aren't responding and the talent isn't producing. This is always a sign that the coaching staff in place isn't doing its job. I still don't think Flip is a bad coach, but I think the players have quit on him and that he has quit on them. I don't think Ernie will fire him. Ernie has always been a low risk, wait and see kind of a GM. He has never done the ballsy thing, only the safe thing. Edited January 6, 2011 by No Excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Forgive me, but I find it absolutely hilarious that Javale McGee entered his name in the dunk contest. He'll finally get to that dunk from the free throw line again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 One good thing from last night: Wall's 14:1 A:TO ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Im at the point where im not even sure who to blame anymore. First i thought it was EG for the suck. But we changed that and now 3 years later, we are still the same team. Actually, we are worse! I guess im going to have to start blaming ernie. hes the common denominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Watching The Wiz collapse on the road again last night was painful. Really nice game from Lewis last night. I know this isn't saying much but probably his best as a Wizard. Has Blatche even heard of help defense? Seriously I know he is incapable of providing it but is he even familiar of the concept? Is Yi on this team? I was wondering why Flop was not giving Howard more playing time toward the end of the game 'til I read his knee flared up again. Edited January 6, 2011 by Rocky21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Coaching has less to do w/regards to success in the NBA than any other sport. Shipping Flip out of town wont make the Wizards a better team. You know that, I know that, Michael Wilbon knows that. In the NBA, franchises are built on the top 3 or 4 players in all of the NBA. Everyone else is out of luck. Not necessarily. The Pistons won the championship, and no one on that roster was a top 5 player in the NBA. The celtics won the championship, and no one on that roster was top 5 (maybe KG or Pierce if you want), the spurs won the championship and no one on that roster was top 5 (you could make a case for Duncan). You need a team to win, not just one superstar player. ___________________________________ Honestly tho, I think getting Flip out of here would make a difference. He was known for his defense, and apparently the Wizards dont even know what defense is, or the fact that they need to play it for all 4 quarters. Edited January 7, 2011 by Shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Not necessarily. The Pistons won the championship, and no one on that roster was a top 5 player in the NBA. The celtics won the championship, and no one on that roster was top 5 (maybe KG or Pierce if you want), the spurs won the championship and no one on that roster was top 5 (you could make a case for Duncan). You need a team to win, not just one superstar player. The Pistons are the only "Team" to win a championship. Every team (including the Celtics and Spurs) has a superstar on the team. Garnett-Pierce, Duncan-Robinson-Parker, Shaq-Kobe, Kobe, Jordan-Pippen, Olajuwan-Horry-Smith, Bird-McHale, Magic-Worthy-Kareem, Thomas-Dumars, ect. etc.. Every team in the last 30 years has had 1 superstar and a sidekick or a flat out superstar. Edited January 7, 2011 by pjfootballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Tim Duncan isn't a top 5 player? This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Even the Pistons, they might not have had a top 5 player overall in the NBA, but they had elite players at every position except SF. Billups, Hamilton, Sheed and Ben Wallace were all top 5 or at worst top 10 players at their positions. That is very rare in the modern NBA to have four dominant players at four starting positions. Edited January 6, 2011 by No Excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Tim Duncan isn't a top 5 player? This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Where did you read that....? I simply said you could make the case for him. Since im a lebron fan i guess you read it differently. Edited January 7, 2011 by Shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Where did you read that....? I simply said you could make the case for him. Since im a lebron fan i guess you read it differently. "Make the case for him"? That again makes no sense at all. You don't make a case for the best player of the decade. To even consider him a questionable top 5 selection is retarded. At worst, he is the third best player of this decade. Edited January 7, 2011 by No Excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) "Make the case for him"? That again makes no sense at all. You don't make a case for the best player of the decade. To even consider him a questionable top 5 selection is retarded. At worst, he is the third best player of this decade. Oh so you still top 5 right now because was the best player or 3rd best player of the decade? If your judging by what they used to be in the passed, then you better have shaq in your top 5 players in the nba today Edited January 7, 2011 by Shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desioreo87 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Don't drink and drive. Or make stock predictions.I have watched this team since they won their championship THIRTY years ago. Not sure how you try to call me out. Basketball as a TEAM sport is a JOKE. It's all about who gets the best player. The lottery is a JOKE too. Coaching has less to do w/regards to success in the NBA than any other sport. Shipping Flip out of town wont make the Wizards a better team. You know that, I know that, Michael Wilbon knows that. In the NBA, franchises are built on the top 3 or 4 players in all of the NBA. Everyone else is out of luck. I agree with this 100%. I used to watch NBA in the days of Jordan but quickly lost interest after he left. The games appeared like pick-up games at times. The lack of defense, organization, and communication. Coupled with star players just doing their own thing while the team just feeds them the ball. The NBA has put measures in place so that they can market Star players and not teams. **** like defensive 3 seconds and illegal defense is so ****ing bogus. The NBA would become so much tougher if teams could play a zone. It would increase the competition levels and make teams far better than they are now because they would have to work together. College Basketball is so much better to watch then the NBA but the NBA has the best players so it produces more amazing plays than College. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 College Basketball is so much better to watch then the NBA but the NBA has the best players so it produces more amazing plays than College. Absolutely agree. College Basketball is much better to watch. And when March Madness rolls around, there is nothing comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Oh so you still top 5 right now because was the best player or 3rd best player of the decade? If your judging by what they used to be in the passed, then you better have shaq in your top 5 players in the nba today For all the English fail in the post, I'll try my best to respond to whatever I could understand. I never suggested that Tim Duncan is a top 5 player CURRENTLY. I was responding to your idiot notion that he wasn't one (or that it was debatable) that he was a top 5 player in the period between 2000 and 2010. Tim Duncan without any question is a top 5 player of the 2000's and arguably the best player of that decade. For anyone who disagrees with this should not bother posting in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Sorry for the typos. I guess youre not a complete retard and were able to understand the point of my post. Back to what you said. You never said he wasn't a top 5 player currently? Tim Duncan isn't a top 5 player? This has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Now since you seem to be the English professor around here... you said isn't. Now I always thought that, that word was present tense, and the past tense would be wasn't. Its not like I made that up, I quoted one of your posts. So basically what I was trying to get at before with the whole shaq reference, you shouldnt rank players in todays NBA based on what they used to be. Edited January 7, 2011 by Shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Sorry for the typos. I guess youre not a complete retard and were able to understand the point of my post. Back to what you said. You never said he wasn't a top 5 player currently? Now since you seem to be the English professor around here... you said isn't. Now I always thought that, that word was present tense, and the past tense would be wasn't. Its not like I made that up, I quoted one of your posts. So basically what I was trying to get at before with the whole shaq reference, you shouldnt rank players in todays NBA based on what they used to be. Genius, if you could understand context, you would know what I was talking about.. You referenced to Duncan not being a top 5 player in the championship, which is what I responded to. But of course, feel free to deflect your own stupidity and continue to bend and twist my words rather than staying on topic. You got called out on your **** and you had no response besides going completely off topic. Edited January 7, 2011 by No Excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabby Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Genius, if you could understand context, you would know what I was talking about.. You referenced to Duncan not being a top 5 player in the championship, which is what I responded to.But of course, feel free to deflect your own stupidity and continue to bend and twist my words rather than staying on topic. You got called out on your **** and you had no response besides going completely off topic. Haha your talking about my stupidity and me being called out yet you contradict your own thoughts. Twist your words? No dude, i just quoted your own post!! Your the one twisting words saying i said TD wasnt a top 5 player. I dont see how i went off topic, I was simply responding to your post? What's so hard to understand about that? Seriously. But yeah, after learning that you like to flip flop ideas you lost all credibility with me. Back to the topic. If you look at all the teams in the NBA, the good teams usually have a good scorer and a good big man. The great teams have some role players. Chicago- Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer Boston- Allen/Pirece, KG Lakers- Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol Mavs- Terry/Butler, Dirk Spurs- Manu, TD Miami- LBJ/Dwade, Bosh Orlando- (now) Arenas, Howard Utah- D-will, Jefferson (Once OKC gets a decent big man, they will be a truly dominant team) Right now, the Wizards have John Wall, and a bunch of role players. John Wall is more of a pure point guard in my opinion then the PGs drafted in the past few drafts. We need a pure scorer, and I think we have that in Josh Howard. If you remember, the previous three seasons, including last season before he was injured, he was averaging close to 20 points a game. If he gets back to full health, i think he will be able to do that again. What we need to look for now is a true dominant big man. Blatche is not the answer. On a side note, What are some of the good big men in College Basketball right now? Edited January 7, 2011 by Shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Anybody else know this lead won't hold? I hate this feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Anybody else know this lead won't hold? I hate this feeling if they lose this one, flip should be canned tonight this is probably the best quarter of ball they've played this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 if they lose this one, flip should be canned tonightthis is probably the best quarter of ball they've played this season What makes me angry the most is that I know they can play like this every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What makes me angry the most is that I know they can play like this every game i don't think they're capable of that every game what we saw in the 1st quarter is a result of the wizards playing at an extremely high level, and the nets helping us out by playing at a low level we won't always have a willing partner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Not necessarily. The Pistons won the championship, and no one on that roster was a top 5 player in the NBA. The celtics won the championship, and no one on that roster was top 5 (maybe KG or Pierce if you want), the spurs won the championship and no one on that roster was top 5 (you could make a case for Duncan). You need a team to win, not just one superstar player.___________________________________ Honestly tho, I think getting Flip out of here would make a difference. He was known for his defense, and apparently the Wizards dont even know what defense is, or the fact that they need to play it for all 4 quarters. The Pistons were the only team to beat the system. You don't think Duncan was a top 5 player during his run???? And the Celtic's were loaded with top talent. The Lakers have 16 championships, the Celtics 17 Championships. In the 60 some years of championships, the Lakers and Celtics have appeared 49 times. Jordan made his mark and brought 6 championships to the Bulls. It's not a team sport, it's a star sport. Teams with the stars win it 99% of the time. Less the most recent Detroit win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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