TheGoodBits Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 He's a bust. Let's see if he can stay healthy this year, and play well consistently before we extend him. He hasn't shown me anything. He starts b/c no one else is even close to a game ready OLB. He could barely hit the field his rookie season, but we are so thin at OLB now he has to. :gus: Dude he played well last year. Not flashy, but really solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 :gus:Dude he played well last year. Not flashy, but really solid. I disagree. Second half of the season teams started killing us by running to the outside. And not just at Marcus. Think about the games where the D couldn't get off of the field in the 4th quarter. How did that happen? Watch the tapes...they ran right at Rocky. He's a weak link. Sorry, I want him to be good. I know he had knee surgery, but they knew he had bad knees when they drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Rocky has shown flashes of just how good he can be. I hope he stays healthy and that we sign him long term. Those knees are the big question mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I disagree. Second half of the season teams started killing us by running to the outside. And not just at Marcus. Think about the games where the D couldn't get off of the field in the 4th quarter. How did that happen? Watch the tapes...they ran right at Rocky. He's a weak link. Sorry, I want him to be good. I know he had knee surgery, but they knew he had bad knees when they drafted him. Well, if you knew he was coming off of knee surgery, why would you... nevermind, you are too contradictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Well, if you knew he was coming off of knee surgery, why would you... nevermind, you are too contradictive. B/c excuses don't translate to results. It doesn't matter why he isn't productive. It just matters that he isn't. There is no contradiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningBuggs Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I disagree. Second half of the season teams started killing us by running to the outside. And not just at Marcus. Think about the games where the D couldn't get off of the field in the 4th quarter. How did that happen? Watch the tapes...they ran right at Rocky. He's a weak link. Sorry, I want him to be good. I know he had knee surgery, but they knew he had bad knees when they drafted him. +1 I like Rocky, I really do. But his knees are bad and have been bad since college. My fear is that we've already gotten the best we can from him. Frankly, I think a contract extension is the wrong move here. Let him go out and stay healthy for a full season and perform at a high level before we consider giving him more money. There may be a better option available next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 B/c excuses don't translate to results. It doesn't matter why he isn't productive. It just matters that he isn't. There is no contradiction. It is so damning for a person who co-opts from behind a computer screen to talk about "EXCUSES." Everyone has an excuse in life be it for health or an unknown factor. McIntosh was absolutely a wonder for the first half of the season: hell he was on pace for a 100 tackle season during his first 3 games according to this: http://www.rotowire.com/football/player.htm?id=4921 What happened? he came back too quickly from his knee injury just as Carlos Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 It is so damning for a person who co-opts from behind a computer screen to talk about "EXCUSES."Everyone has an excuse in life be it for health or an unknown factor. McIntosh was absolutely a wonder for the first half of the season: hell he was on pace for a 100 tackle season during his first 3 games according to this: http://www.rotowire.com/football/player.htm?id=4921 What happened? he came back too quickly from his knee injury just as Carlos Rogers. LMAO, through 3 games?!?!?! Oh crap. That's a heck of a sample to build a trend. We are all talking behind a computer screen man. I wouldn't mind saying it to anyone's face. And you are right, we all have excuses. They never change the reality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Lock him up for sure because if his knees hold up he will be SPECIAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Dollars to donuts this has more to do with the 'skins trying to free up more cap space this year then their desire to see Rocky stay a Redskin. Although I want to see Rocky do well, I tend to agree here. They only have just under 6 million in cap space. I hope this isn't to accommodate a contract for Sanchez.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Definitely glad to hear this. I hope Rocky can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I disagree. Second half of the season teams started killing us by running to the outside. And not just at Marcus. Think about the games where the D couldn't get off of the field in the 4th quarter. How did that happen? Watch the tapes...they ran right at Rocky. He's a weak link. Sorry, I want him to be good. I know he had knee surgery, but they knew he had bad knees when they drafted him. Obviously you take the whole season into account, and hopefully that will help us when it comes to the bargaining table with Rocky. However I don't think you can say "He's a bust" because his knee wore down after having major surgery the year prior. The fact that he was able to play at the fairly high level he did last season says more to me than him slowing down late. It's obvious the talent is there. When he's healthy the production is there. Yes there were concerns over his knee when we drafted him, hence why he was available in the second round. However his knee injury in 2007 had nothing to do with any prior injuries/concerns, it was a freak injury that could happen to anyone. I don't think he needs to be paid like the elite due to his lack of "big plays" but I do believe he is an upper tier player at his position, and I expect to see this in the games and in the stat sheet this season. Don't underestimate the effect a knee injury will have on the following season. Having to rehab all offseason is like running a 100 yard dash with your opponent starting at the 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 good news, locking up our younger home bred guys. his knees have been ok with us so i dont see this being a huge concern. and he wont cost a ton. lock it up vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Obviously you take the whole season into account, and hopefully that will help us when it comes to the bargaining table with Rocky. However I don't think you can say "He's a bust" because his knee wore down after having major surgery the year prior. The fact that he was able to play at the fairly high level he did last season says more to me than him slowing down late. It's obvious the talent is there. When he's healthy the production is there. Yes there were concerns over his knee when we drafted him, hence why he was available in the second round. However his knee injury in 2007 had nothing to do with any prior injuries/concerns, it was a freak injury that could happen to anyone. I don't think he needs to be paid like the elite due to his lack of "big plays" but I do believe he is an upper tier player at his position, and I expect to see this in the games and in the stat sheet this season. Don't underestimate the effect a knee injury will have on the following season. Having to rehab all offseason is like running a 100 yard dash with your opponent starting at the 20. Yeah, bust is probably a bit harsh. I am not satisfied with his production, and very concerned with his durability, especially being this young. If we can get him on the cheap, I would support the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapatriot Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like Rocky. I think this is a good move. Only time will tell but if McIntosh can get back to where he was before the surgery we're in good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like Rocky but I don't think we've seen his best yet....I'm for the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/23/skins-talking-extension-with-mcintosh/I like it' date=' maybe they can sign him up cheap. I don't remember where I read it but doesn't talking extension with a player before a draft mean anything? I know I read something about teams giving extensions to players before the draft and that meaning something.[/quote'] It doesn't mean anything except that they maybe want to have more money available to sign rookies. Like maybe the third overall pick. DundunDUNNNNN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukskinsfan Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 McIntosh is entering the final year of his four-year rookie deal. He’s due to earn a base salary of $535,000 in 2009. The second-round pick from the 2006 draft appeared in 16 games last season, starting 15 of them. Dollars to donuts this has more to do with the 'skins trying to free up more cap space this year then their desire to see Rocky stay a Redskin. So this is how we're gonna clear up salary cap room. I was wondering if we were gonna cut somebody. I like this even better. We're suring up OUR OWN young players. $535K is minimum salary for 4th year players so there is no way that a contract extension could free up any cap sapce this year. So the only reason for this is the FO trying to lock up one of our own players before he hits the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Sweet, lets hope his knee holds up. Anybody see Path to the Draft on NFLN. Charley Casserly apparently think Curry may fall to number 12 in the draft. I'd love it if he could fall one more spot. Curry and R-Mac would be a nice pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Good, I like Rocky, lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/23/skins-talking-extension-with-mcintosh/I like it' date=' maybe they can sign him up cheap. I don't remember where I read it but doesn't talking extension with a player before a draft mean anything? I know I read something about teams giving extensions to players before the draft and that meaning something.[/quote'] cue the extended Rocky Mac so we can trade him to move up and take Aaron Curry Rumors I think a WLB is probably easier to draft anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Alright, good idea!! Rocky hasnt played his best seasons yet, im shure of it!! Lock it up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 If the extension makes his cap hit less this year, then we are creating more cap space. Otherwise I'm not sure how this helps before the draft. Either way I like it though. McIntosh is good, young, us locking him up now is a smart move, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoDC Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 IDK, LBs have only 4-5 good years for us, McIntosh is on 2, So we need to give him a 2-3 yr deal and drop him fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I love me some Rocky...I remember the 'skins took a lot of heat for drafting him. I think he has more than met his expectations. I smell a breakout year. I feel a breakout year coming too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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