praise_gibbs Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Watching Mike and Mike, it is all but a done deal. CC Sabathia will sign with the New York Yankees. This is a start to finally understanding that you can't outhit each and every team. You are gonna need some pitching help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 So they finally begged that guy to sign with them for 200 million? Go them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 "Welcome to New York" But yeah , this will help improve that rotation. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Baseball will never be as good as the NFL until they get a hard salary cap. Just ridiculous. The funny thing is, Sabathia is terrible in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLockesGhost Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Here's hoping for another Carl Pavano or Barry Zito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 :evil: :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 F. 7 years , 160 mil , according to Olney of ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thank goodness. That's too much money though. And I hope they can sign 2 more starters... because what they need to do is put Chamberlain back into middle relief. Now, what are they going to do with the young kids they were supposed to be developing? Are they trade bait.... for hitters? Because the Yankees should be able to pitch now.... but they're going to need some bats too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 This means no AJ Burnett. So this move is pretty sweet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What is it about you yankee fans? Ever since you started to try to buy the world series, it hasn't worked. You were so successful when you relied on the farm system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 This means no AJ Burnett. So this move is pretty sweet..... I dunno... Burnett can be dominant when he's healthy. But an injury-plauged player can be frustrating. Personally, I think they'll sign Sheets. And he has the same rap-sheet. And I hope the Braves get Burnett... tired of him burning the Yanks in matchups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I dunno... Burnett can be dominant when he's healthy. But an injury-plauged player can be frustrating.Personally, I think they'll sign Sheets. And he has the same rap-sheet. And I hope the Braves get Burnett... tired of him burning the Yanks in matchups. I dont like giving Burnett 4 or 5 years. While I agree on Sheets, I'm hoping he'll come cheaper & shorter than Burnett would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Interesting. He's 27, he's like 250 pounds, he's thrown 240 and 250 innings each of the past two years and he's never been hurt. I ****ing LOVE this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Interesting.He's 27, he's like 250 pounds, he's thrown 240 and 250 innings each of the past two years and he's never been hurt. I ****ing LOVE this deal. He'll be on the IL by July, **** the Yanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Weirdo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Phils rocked his ass in the paloffs. Hamels the Gawd, head to head, ****ed his ass up. I love having a team that won a championship. It feels fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Baseball will never be as good as the NFL until they get a hard salary cap. Just ridiculous. The funny thing is, Sabathia is terrible in the playoffs. Isn't that the truth. It's just not a system that helps all the teams. Until they get a hard cap, baseball is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Isn't that the truth. It's just not a system that helps all the teams. Until they get a hard cap, baseball is worthless. I'm so sick of the "Payroll" argument. Especially since it's not correct. 6 weeks ago, a team that was ranked 29th in payroll, made it to the World Series. The top three teams in payroll (Both New Yorks & Detroit) didn't even make the playoffs. Payroll means nothing. The only advantage the upper payroll teams have is they can **** up & not have it ruin their whole season. And that is even only true sometimes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Why all the hate for Baseball's storied franchise? All males start out as Yankees ....... right after they discover their hands and are free of diapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What is it about you yankee fans? Ever since you started to try to buy the world series, it hasn't worked. You were so successful when you relied on the farm system. Isn't that the truth. It's just not a system that helps all the teams. Until they get a hard cap, baseball is worthless. Is that the truth? Guys like Tino Martinez, Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Dave Wells, David Cone, Roger Clemens.... were they home-grown talent? Were they not key to the Yankees championships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Seems like the Yanks were better when they didn't spend a ridiculuos amount on FAs. In the late 90s they were definitely at the top of the MLB payroll, but it wasn't 2x as much as the next highest team like it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Best of luck to CC - thought he would sign out west and be near home (and get to bat every 5th day). Hard to pass up the extra 40-50 million that the Yanks are paying him over other teams though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Is that the truth?Guys like Tino Martinez, Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Dave Wells, David Cone, Roger Clemens.... were they home-grown talent? Were they not key to the Yankees championships? I would argue that Jeter, Williams, Posada, Riveria and the like were the key guys and what the yankees did was add solid players and not every all-star they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Is that the truth?Guys like Tino Martinez, Wade Boggs, Roger Clemens, Jimmy Key, Dave Wells, David Cone, Roger Clemens.... were they home-grown talent? Were they not key to the Yankees championships? Yeah, that was my impression that the late 90s Yanks were somehow "built from within", but its not really true, when you go back and look at their roster. The only "homegrown" talent was Jeter, Pettite, Posada, Rivera, and Bernie Williams. Riviera, Jeter, Posada(though injured) and Petitte are still on the team, and they also have Robinson Cano and Joba Chamberlain which came from their farm. Not sure about their bullpen, but it seems like abou the same makeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm so sick of the "Payroll" argument. Especially since it's not correct. 6 weeks ago, a team that was ranked 29th in payroll, made it to the World Series. The top three teams in payroll (Both New Yorks & Detroit) didn't even make the playoffs. Payroll means nothing. The only advantage the upper payroll teams have is they can **** up & not have it ruin their whole season. And that is even only true sometimes...... Earth to poster: you said in your own post the reason no salary cap is totally unfair. Let's take the Ray's. If they don't draft well, they will never win. So they have one way of fielding a winner.(I'm not talking just world series, but having a chance every year to make the playoffs. The Yankees and Red Sox have two ways to win. They can draft well, but they can also afford to pay for the best talent every year and as you said, "they can **** up & not have it ruin their whole season." So the rich teams have 2 ways to win and the poor teams have 1 way to win. Is that really fair? In the NFL, every team has the draft and the same amount of money. That gives every team a chance every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah, that was my impression that the late 90s Yanks were somehow "built from within", but its not really true, when you go back and look at their roster. The only "homegrown" talent was Jeter, Pettite, Posada, Rivera, and Bernie Williams. Riviera, Jeter, Posada(though injured) and Petitte are still on the team, and they also have Robinson Cano and Joba Chamberlain which came from their farm. Not sure about their bullpen, but it seems like abou the same makeup. But we are talking about those players when they were really in there prime. Plus, as I said, it seems like they didn't just go after the superstar at every position and pay the most every time. They had character guys. The moment they decided to pay 15 mill to every position player they could get, there luck changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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