taylorcoreskin Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Again you Saunders fans keep saying it has won...but what has it won? nothing...KC won nothing, it is a mediocre offense at best. Top 5 offense from 2002-2005. That's winning for an offense coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Again you Saunders fans keep saying it has won...but what has it won? nothing...KC won nothing, it is a mediocre offense at best. Care to look up and tell us exactly where KC's defense ranked those years?? But I guess defense has nothing to do with winning either, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 its amazing how fast some have turned against Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 a mediocre offense at best. Mediocre offenses don't have QB's that throw for over 4000 yds and a back rushing for over 1400. The Madden football fans kill me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Care to look up and tell us exactly where KC's defense ranked those years??But I guess defense has nothing to do with winning either, right?? Top 5 offense from 2002-2005. That's winning for an offense coordinator. how bout when he was with marty earlier or when he was HC of the chargers? The man has never won anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 how bout when he was with marty earlier or when he was HC of the chargers? The man has never won anywhere So, you really think Al had control of the offense when Marty was his boss?? :laugh: Wasn't Al just the interm HC at San Diego when they let Don Coryell go mid-season?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiramu Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Keep Saunders. Get a QB that is more quick and accurate. And a BIG WR. Life will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Mediocre offenses don't have QB's that throw for over 4000 yds and a back rushing for over 1400.The Madden football fans kill me. Ok smart guy first of all i don't even own a playstation or Xbox and have never played Madden so stop being such a smug SOB...yes his offense leads to good stats, but what has he won (sounds more like you are the one who plays to much Madden to focus on all the stats)...I will say it again what has this offense won? nothing...has he ever been to a super bowl and won with his offensive scheme...his offense has won absolutly squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDepompa Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 If Jason Campbell is forced to learn a 7th offensive system in 8 years, I am pretty sure his head will actually explode. I've seen it happen before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Top 5 offense from 2002-2005. That's winning for an offense coordinator. Actually he only had a top 5 Offense in 2004...and with LJ and Preist Holmes its not that hard to get a good running game from those 2 guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor4Life Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Actually he only had a top 5 Offense in 2004...and with LJ and Preist Holmes its not that hard to get a good running game from those 2 guys Wrong. It went like this: 2002 - 4th 2003 - 2nd 2004 - 1st 2005 - 1st I don't get you people who criticize AS for "not having won anything" in KC. Nobody is asking AS to run the special teams, defense, and everything else that goes into a winning football team. That's not his job. His job is to create a dynamic and explosive offense that is capable of putting points on the board. Period, end of story. And he has shown that he is quite capable of that. And as for your argument that with Holmes and Johnson that "any OC could do it with those guys," take a peek at the decline of LJ's stats since AS left KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Wrong. It went like this:2002 - 4th 2003 - 2nd 2004 - 1st 2005 - 1st I don't get you people who criticize AS for "not having won anything" in KC. Nobody is asking AS to run the special teams, defense, and everything else that goes into a winning football team. That's not his job. His job is to create a dynamic and explosive offense that is capable of putting points on the board. Period, end of story. And he has shown that he is quite capable of that. And as for your argument that with Holmes and Johnson that "any OC could do it with those guys," take a peek at the decline of LJ's stats since AS left KC. what happened to his offenses come playoff time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Todd Collins is not an NFL starter. He's a career backup and needs to be back in that role. He came in and did his job when it was needed. Now that Campbell will be healthy he should be the starter next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I think one thing we know for sure is Campbell is starting 08. Everything else is pretty much up in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 People just forget or maybe just don't know how explosive that offense was in KC. The year they lost to the colts in the playoffs, they were practically unstoppable. In fact, the Colts never did stop them. Not once. Priest Holmes fumbled once, and a missed FG. That's it. They never punted the ball. Course they lost, but that's not on the offense. That was on the defense. That's what Saunders can bring to the table, and he will if given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Sorry, I just don't like his system...defend him all you want i don't like his system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 People just forget or maybe just don't know how explosive that offense was in KC. The year they lost to the colts in the playoffs, they were practically unstoppable. In fact, the Colts never did stop them. Not once. Priest Holmes fumbled once, and a missed FG. That's it. They never punted the ball. Course they lost, but that's not on the offense. That was on the defense. That's what Saunders can bring to the table, and he will if given time. hope so. I'd like to see a much more aggressive passing game than what we have seen thus far....aside from aethestics and player constraints that may have constrained his playcalling for boht QBs....dink and dunk is boring.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 what happened to his offenses come playoff time? They only made it to the playoffs once, but that year their offense was ranked #1 in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I think Campbell's chances of staying actually increase if Saunders goes. JC is not a Saunders prototypical QB. Saunders relies on accuracy, timing and quick releases, which are Campbell's weaknesses. Campbell would do better in a Schittenheimer, smashmouth offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 They only made it to the playoffs once, but that year their offense was ranked #1 in the postseason. twice! don't forget the Seattle game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I really don't think that Campbell is at all wedded to Al Saunders, as some of your poll answers suggest. Collins might be, but not Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branephood Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 What is it about Saunders that leads people to believe that he's the man for Campbell? I'll go a step further and say he's been a bust in Washington, look at how poorly the offense has been since he was hired. Just because the folks at Fox call him a "Genius" doesn't make it fact. People thought Obama was going to crush Hillary last night in NH too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 What is it about Saunders that leads people to believe that he's the man for Campbell? I'll go a step further and say he's been a bust in Washington, look at how poorly the offense has been since he was hired. Just because the folks at Fox call him a "Genius" doesn't make it fact. People thought Obama was going to crush Hillary last night in NH too.Good point...why is it people say give the system time but then look at Pittsburgh or dallas and they instal new systems and right away they have success...and don't just blame it on Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted January 9, 2008 Author Share Posted January 9, 2008 BTW Can someone clue me in what does the (M.E.T) Mean in the thread Title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor21 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I like JC, I think he is the future, and I don't want to change my name :doh: Or it could just very well mean TheRiseof(Khary)Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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