Briggs in a nutshell.

[McD5]

Everyone acts like by getting Briggs....we wouldn't get a defensive lineman. That isn't true....we can use the 31st, or even move higher, to get a defensive lineman in addition to Briggs. 109 tackles, 4 forced fumbles and two interceptions is nothing to sneeze at. And we all know Fletcher won't be around for more than two more seasons......so get Briggs now, or draft another linebacker with next seasons top pick.

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[LoudMouth12thMan]

BUT HE HAS 3.5 CAREER SACKS.:doh:

Sorry didn't see that

[JRAB]

Everyone acts like by getting Briggs....we wouldn't get a defensive lineman. That isn't true....we can use the 31st, or even move higher, to get a defensive lineman in addition to Briggs. 109 tackles, 4 forced fumbles and two interceptions is nothing to sneeze at. And we all know Fletcher won't be around for more than two more seasons......so get Briggs now, or draft another linebacker with next seasons top pick.

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It's the quality of DL we can get. So many are saying even a DL at #6 isn't likely to help that much in his first year. What will a DL taken at 31 be like?

Oh, nevermind. I'm too depressed to write about it anymore.

[0mega]

First, no deal has been offered by anyone associated with the Redskins to the Bears for Briggs as of this moment. The reporting on this came quickly and got a little confusing. Let's recap so everyone can breathe.

1. Adam Schefter reports Bears considering sending Briggs and their first round pick 31 overall To the skins for the 6th overall pick.

2. Glazer reports the following:

The first report from Shefter suggests the Bears would like that trade, but says nothing about us. The second report, says DIRECTLY that Rosenhaus told Glazer the Redskins would do that trade. Glazer asked Snyder, who said hi to Briggs apparently, and Snyder said the team would be interested in a move for Briggs, and we were waiting on Chicago to call us.

As the two men left the area, Rosenhaus reportedly told them Chicago was waiting on a call from them.

Uh.

Anyone else see what's happening?

Neither team has talked to each other. The Redskins acknowledged through Snyder that Briggs is a guy they'd like and Chicago should feel free to call. Rosenhaus confirms to Glazer and tells Cerrato the Bears are hot for this and they told him they were waiting on a call. Can anyone say drumming up interest in one's client with no actual conversation between the teams having taken place?

Though, you kind of have to find Rosenhaus as our personal pimp pretty cute.

I hope you're right.

[deejaydana]

if this trade would ever go through I would ban myself from this website cause what I would post would be unfit for all eyes. I pray this is just more rumor mongering. Briggs is over-rated and has a crap attitude, exactly what Cerrato's valued in the past. Yikes.

[SonnyandSam]

To all those who think Briggs is not so great....in his last three years as a pro, he has been an

2004 Pro Bowl Alternate

2005 ALL PRO First Team

2006 Pro Bowl first string NFC

He is only about 20 tackles behind Urlacher over that three year period.

Ladies and gentlemen.....Lance Briggs is a proven Pro Bowl linebacker and one of the best in the league for the past three years.

Argue we do not need a linebacker but anyone arguing he is average or not very good or make fun of him as a player is only showing how little you know about NFL players and their abilities. Briggs would instantly become the best linebacker on the Redskins.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

To all those who think Briggs is not so great....in his last three years as a pro, he has been an

2004 Pro Bowl Alternate

2005 ALL PRO First Team

2006 Pro Bowl first string NFC

He is only about 20 tackles behind Urlacher over that three year period.

Ladies and gentlemen.....Lance Briggs is a proven Pro Bowl linebacker and one of the best in the league for the past three years.

Argue we do not need a linebacker but anyone arguing he is average or not very good or make fun of him as a player is only showing how little you know about NFL players and their abilities. Briggs would instantly become the best linebacker on the Redskins.

He is a system linebacker. Rocky can be as good as him. We are fine at linebacker.

He had 3.5 career sacks in 5 years. Thats a joke. If this was Merriman i would do the deal. A LB/DE pass rushing guy.

This guy is another Warrick Holdman. He is a great player for the Bears system.

Thats it. If Snyder makes this move. OH MY. I am going to Joe Gibbs house and telling him to leave this sinful place and just do his nascar.

[bubba9497]

No they didn't. Rosenhaus said they said they were waiting on call from the Redskins .

per Lenny P.

Rosenhaus, who has struck several deals with Snyder, said later Monday that reaching a contract agreement with the Redskins was "a strong likelihood." But he also acknowledged that Washington still had to formalize a trade proposal and the Bears had to accept.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2814052

[FrFan]

Here is another article about this possible trade from PFT:

'SKINS MAKING A PLAY FOR BRIGGS?

Adam Schefter of NFL Network and Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com report that the Redskins and Bears are contemplating a trade that would send the No. 6 overall pick to Chicago for linebacker Lance Briggs and the No. 31 overall pick in the draft.

But didn't the 'Skins learn last year the folly of trying to force a Tampa 2 specialist into Gregg Williams' defense? Though we can't fault Adam Archuleta (one of our sponsors) for taking $10 million guaranteed, the Redskins should have considered more carefully the question of whether the player would fit within the system.

Briggs' success possibly is a product of his role as the weakside linebacker in the Tampa 2 defense, which gives him a lot of freedom to roam in open space and make tackles. As the "will" in a traditional 4-3, will he be as effective?

It's a big risk for the Redskins to take, in our view. But we have a feeling that owner Dan Snyder (who has been uncharacteristically quiet in free agency) is itching to make a big deal, especially at a time when he's rubbing elbows with his 31 partners/competitors at the NFL's 2007 Annual Meeting.'

A good point to raise the question about Briggs ability to fit our system.

Anything can happen with this FA paranoia

[Califan007 The Constipated]

per Lenny P.

"Rosenhaus, who has struck several deals with Snyder, said later Monday that reaching a contract agreement with the Redskins was "a strong likelihood." But he also acknowledged that Washington still had to formalize a trade proposal and the Bears had to accept. "

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ..."It's practically a done deal, even though I have no idea what the actual deal is." :laugh:

[boofMcboof]

I thought April Fools was still a couple days away.

[SkinsGuy]

per Lenny P.

Rosenhaus, who has struck several deals with Snyder, said later Monday that reaching a contract agreement with the Redskins was "a strong likelihood." But he also acknowledged that Washington still had to formalize a trade proposal and the Bears had to accept

That's a pretty funny and ridiculous quote.

He's saying the deal is done, if only the two sides would contact each other. :laugh:

Sounds like Lenny P. and Rosenhaus are trying to make a deal amongst themselves, and talk the two teams into taking it.

[SonnyandSam]

He is a system linebacker. Rocky can be as good as him. We are fine at linebacker.

He had 3.5 career sacks in 5 years. Thats a joke. If this was Merriman i would do the deal. A LB/DE pass rushing guy.

This guy is another Warrick Holdman. He is a great player for the Bears system.

Thats it. If Snyder makes this move. OH MY. I am going to Joe Gibbs house and telling him to leave this sinful place and just do his nascar.

Come on....argue we don't need a linebacker but stop trashing a great linebacker. Holdman NEVER went to the Pro Bowl. And sacks are only important to linebackers on teams with crappy front lines. Go ahead tell me these guys suck as linebackers, too....

Derrick Brooks 13.5 sacks in 12 years

Donnie Edwards 21.5 sacks in 11 years

London Fletcher 27.5 sacks in 9 years

Al Wilson 21 sacks in 8 years

Lofa Tatupu 5 sacks in 2 years

Antonio Pierce 5.5 sacks in 6 years

The point is simple....great linebackers are not always great pass rushers. They have important responsibilities including tackling and pass defensing. Briggs is a respected top flight linebacker that football people respect as a talented linebacker. He covers secondary receivers better than most any linebacker in the league.

I understand people's arguments against signing a linebacker but you undermine your own credibility when you fail to recognize quality players and use weak arguments like "Uh...man 3.5 sacks is a joke...who cares if he is one of the top 10 tacklers in the league the past three years and returned 3 interceptions for turnovers and is one of the league leading linebackers in forced turnovers....heck....he still only has 3. 5 sacks so he must suck...."

Why do I even bother posting on this board any more....... :doh:

[0mega]

Come on....argue we don't need a linebacker but stop trashing a great linebacker. Holdman NEVER went to the Pro Bowl. And sacks are only important to linebackers on teams with crappy front lines. Go ahead tell me these guys suck as linebackers, too....

Derrick Brooks 13.5 sacks in 12 years

Donnie Edwards 21.5 sacks in 11 years

London Fletcher 27.5 sacks in 9 years

Al Wilson 21 sacks in 8 years

Lofa Tatupu 5 sacks in 2 years

Antonio Pierce 5.5 sacks in 6 years

The point is simple....great linebackers are not always great pass rushers. They have important responsibilities including tackling and pass defensing. Briggs is a respected top flight linebacker that football people respect as a talented linebacker. He covers secondary receivers better than most any linebacker in the league.

I understand people's arguments against signing a linebacker but you undermine your own credibility when you fail to recognize quality players and use weak arguments like "Uh...man 3.5 sacks is a joke...who cares if he is one of the top 10 tacklers in the league the past three years and returned 3 interceptions for turnovers and is one of the league leading linebackers in forced turnovers....heck....he still only has 3. 5 sacks so he must suck...."

Why do I even bother posting on this board any more....... :doh:

I agree that Briggs is an intruiging player. Noone can realistically call into question WHAT he has done in Chicago. He's performed at a consistantly high level - even before the media hype machine caught on.

However, HOW it has been done can certainly be taken into consideration. Dude has had the luxury of playing behing what is probably the best D line in football, and next to one of the most dominant MLBs. He's an unknown quantity outside of Chicago. Who knows what we'll be getting when we put him behind OUR ("not so dominant" D line). If we were talking strictly UFA, then I'd still have my reservations, but atleast we wouldn't be talking about giving up the #6 pick in the draft.

If they want the #6 bad enough, then I'd do it for #31, #37, and Briggs. Otherwise, let him be THEIR headache.

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[Califan007 The Constipated]

As others have eluded to, Snyder is stealth-like when he's serious about his contract and trade negotiations. Whenever he's been loud and boisterous, though--and especially in front of anyone from the media--it's usually just for show and headlines, nothing more.

[HapHaszard]

Sounds like have your people call my people sorta deal to me. Dan making a deal in front of a media guy is not something I would expect to happen, more like he was joking with Drew, or just being polite.

[Loxley]

I think from what ive read here, he is having a joke at their expense for a change.

[Chump Bailey]

I agree that Briggs is an intruiging player. Noone can realistically call into question WHAT he has done in Chicago. He's performed at a consistantly high level - even before the media hype machine caught on.

However, HOW it has been done can certainly be taken into consideration. Dude has had the luxury of playing behing what is probably the best D line in football, and next to one of the most dominant MLBs. He's an unknown quantity outside of Chicago. Who knows what we'll be getting when we put him behind OUR ("not so dominant" D line). If we were talking strictly UFA, then I'd still have my reservations, but atleast we wouldn't be talking about giving up the #6 pick in the draft.

If they want the #6 bad enough, then I'd do it for #31, #37, and Briggs. Otherwise, let him be THEIR headache.

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I agree with this, though I still doubt I would pull the trigger. I do think LB is not as strong a position as some perceive it to be, but I am still hesitant to miss out on either Branch, Anderson, Carriker or Okoye. We might be able to get Tank Tyler, who I do like and possibly Meariweather with the Bears

#31 & #37 as you propose.

Just throwing it out there, but I would take Patrick Willis over Briggs in a second also:2cents:

[Veretax]

its a smoke screen I tell ya

[Art]

I agree with the statements here that sacks do not define a linebacker. Lavar Arrington's greatest season as a pro was with Marty. He had .5 sacks. He had .5 sacks and literally changed how teams could play against us. He was put into a simple system. Told to drop back 10 yards and come forward to lower the boom and BOOM. The next season, in a complex defense, he had 11 sacks and was, LITERALLY, horrible. He was so bad at linebacker, Lewis threw him up at end to Arrington's disappointment and struggle. Most of those sacks were late in plays and garbage type. That was his worst season as a healthy professional.

The fixation with sacks on this board is just weird. That is no what defines most players. Our system will automatically take sacks away from defensive linemen based on what we ask them to do and what we hope to accomplish, which, for us, is stopping the run with seven guys, requiring your defensive line to engage, peek into the backfield, diagnose, then shed. This allows Williams to play the games in the back seven that ultimately confuse teams when he's got a group he is comfortable with.

[BillyKilmer]

Why???? :doh: :doh: Rocky won't see the field again wasted last years number 2 )

We could have traded down that 6th and gotten some sorely needed depth

I don't care Art I am going to say it here.

THIS TRADE STINKS OF ALL THE THINGS SAY ARE BAD ABOUT SNYDER.

p.s I am no Snyder hater ... but he is working on my last nerve!

[Burgold]

Another possibility, when asked by a reporter about Briggs, Snyder said, "Sure we like 'im. Great player. We'd love to have him." Just being nice, versus, "Eh, what a loser. He's a bum trying to screw over his own team. I wouldn't touch a jerk like that with a ten foot pole."

Saying someone is good and that you would like to have them is different than saying you are actively interest in trying to get them. One is being polite or honest (I'm sure there are 50 players out there that we all would like on our team) The other is a statement of action.

[BillyKilmer]

Another possibility, when asked by a reporter about Briggs, Snyder said, "Sure we like 'im. Great player. We'd love to have him." Just being nice, QUOTE]

Wouldn't this be tampering?

[Burgold]

No, not if you say that about every player. It's called being polite. If someone asks Gibbs about the worst team in the league he usually will say how impressive they are and what great players they have, that they'll be lucky to beat them. Now, is that an honest assessment? No. I think it's possible that Danny would not disparaige any player if asked about him and his answer, given his history, could be seen as interest.

At least I hope so...

It's sort of like if we work in the office on different floors and I hear one of your guys is moving up to my floor and I ask,

"So, what about Mike?"

And you say,

"Mike. He's cool. He's a good guy."

Does that really mean you're endorsing him?

[Veretax]

Here's a nother problem. We are only about 5 mil under the cap right now. Who do we have to cut in order to sign Briggs and our #31 pick? I'm tellin you this makes no sense at all