Briggs in a nutshell.

[Art]

Why wouldn't it be Vinny, Art? Considering his track record, aren't you at least troubled by the fact that he still plays a major part in the personnel decisions? We know for a fact that no other team in the league would hire him. That was proven when Marty S kicked him to the curb and Vinny didn't sniff one job interview until Danny took him back.

Why it wouldn't be Vinny is because Vinny's a high performer. You don't like him likely because you don't care to appreciate the fine work he generally has done, especially for Gibbs. Our three drafts have had a high retention rate, and a good number of starting players, especially considering how few picks we've had. Vinny was especially beneficial to Gibbs in year one, as was Williams.

With Gibbs not really aware of the league, Williams was intimately aware and put together much of the defense where Vinny really helped him with offensive players. If anything, as Gibbs has gotten more familiar with players he's taken a larger role in personnel evaluations last year and now, and we certainly didn't do as well last year as we'd like.

Gibbs appreciates how hard Vinny works and how organized he's been. Vinny made it easier for Gibbs to return to the league and Gibbs will have some loyalty to him for all he did for him. Now, you repeat the idiotic statement that after Marty cut Vinny loose, months into the offseason, that because he went to ESPN in a great gig he was not hireable in the league.

Many of the better personnel people in the NFL have done time in between gigs at ESPN. Especially when two months of planning have gone on and you are already set from a personnel department in the offseason, some of the better guys have taken work at ESPN. But, you already know that.

[bubba9497]

I thought Glazer reported that Danny was sitting next to Drew, having the conversation right in front of Glazer.

Of course, that wouldn't change the fact that this could be a smokescreen.

he did? where did he say that?

he said the man who refuses to talk to the media, Danny Boy, suddenly decides to talk with FOX, and confirm the Skins are wanting to make a trade

He also said Danny alone talked to Briggs, where others report Briggs talked to Dan, Vinny AND Joe Gibbs, along with several other teams

[Hooper]

Why it wouldn't be Vinny is because Vinny's a high performer. You don't like him likely because you don't care to appreciate the fine work he generally has done, especially for Gibbs. Our three drafts have had a high retention rate, and a good number of starting players, especially considering how few picks we've had. Vinny was especially beneficial to Gibbs in year one, as was Williams.

With Gibbs not really aware of the league, Williams was intimately aware and put together much of the defense where Vinny really helped him with offensive players. If anything, as Gibbs has gotten more familiar with players he's taken a larger role in personnel evaluations last year and now, and we certainly didn't do as well last year as we'd like.

Gibbs appreciates how hard Vinny works and how organized he's been. Vinny made it easier for Gibbs to return to the league and Gibbs will have some loyalty to him for all he did for him. Now, you repeat the idiotic statement that after Marty cut Vinny loose, months into the offseason, that because he went to ESPN in a great gig he was not hireable in the league.

Many of the better personnel people in the NFL have done time in between gigs at ESPN. Especially when two months of planning have gone on and you are already set from a personnel department in the offseason, some of the better guys have taken work at ESPN. But, you already know that.

Vinny does fine work? Where, in bizarro world? Was telling Gibbs that trading two high picks for Brandon Lloyd, a player San Fran didn't even want, "fine work"? Trading a high pick to rent TJ Duckett? Was that fine work, Art? I could go on and on.

He has a high-draft retention rate? Sure, because he routinely trades all the mid to later round picks away. And when he does pick in later rounds, he misses far more than the average GM. I mean, has the guy ever found a late-round lineman?

The track record says it all. With Vinny in the front office, the 49ers and Redskins have had their worse years... well, ever.

[Art]

Vinny does fine work? Where, in bizarro world? Was telling Gibbs that trading two high picks for Brandon Lloyd, a player San Fran didn't even want, "fine work"? Trading a high pick to rent TJ Duckett? Was that fine work, Art? I could go on and on.

He has a high-draft retention rate? Sure, because he routinely trades all the mid to later round picks away. And when he does pick in later rounds, he misses far more than the average GM. I mean, has the guy ever found a late-round lineman?

The track record says it all. With Vinny in the front office, the 49ers and Redskins have had their worse years... well, ever.

Gibbs wanted Lloyd. He made the deal, personally. Vinny never even had contact when the negotiations got going. Snyder was there, of course. Vinny was never in charge in San Fran. Look up who was there. Vinny was a reasonably small part of that organization, reporting up through two men. The bad years for the Niners came because of a change in ownership when the Yorks would not pay money like Eddie D. did.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

This is as good a place as any to ask: What was the value of Marshall's contract in 2005 and what is his cap hit? I can't find it.

[aqq]

This is as good a place as any to ask: What was the value of Marshall's contract in 2005 and what is his cap hit? I can't find it.

I believe it was a 3yr 3million dollar contract and considering it is his last yr the cap hit would be around 0.

[Bangee7]

This kind of stuff is embarassing and it comes from our owner!!

Our owner's ego isn't exactly on the mend.

Has to show what a deal-maker he is...

cut the deal in public...what a craftsman!

These kind of antics discredit the franchise.

It sure does nothing to build our esteem throughout the league.

Hope it was worth it to him...whatever his motives.