DogofWar1 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 They were ready, willing, and able to do a catchweight for Rousey/Carano though Carano earned it. Without Carano, there's probably no women's UFC to begin with. Rousey owes her a lot. She owes Cyborg nothing. Less than nothing, actually. Cyborg has twice agreed to fight contenders at 135, then Rousey, and has twice backed out. If anyone owes anyone anything, Cyborg owes Rousey. Rousey has been expanding women's MMA practically single-handedly. Cyborg owes Rousey a ton. Her career would be nothing more than 5 figure fights, at best, against cans. Shes had a clear path to Rousey for years, and hasn't done it. On a similar but side note, card was kinda lame. Wayyyy too long for the fights it had. I know not every card can he UFC 189 material, but at this point you've got to pair Rousey with better prelims and main card fights. You know she's gonna annihilate her opponent in no time, gotta build a card around her. Dana has the right idea though, if he pairs Mcgregor-Aldo on the same night as Rousey-Tate 3. That first fight is gonna be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 How much weight does RR cut to get to 135? Cyborg is the only fighter who could be competitive with Rousey imo. Tate doesn't have the strength or athleticism. Zingano maybe could've been a nice fight just a bad strategy on her part. Where is Marloes?? The girl from the show(Pena) is still a bit green.......like Bethe but seems strong enough to not get completely bullied by RR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Carano did more for WMMA? Cyborg destroyed her. The only reason Carano was a big deal was because she's hot. She's the Anna Kornikova of WMMA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Carano earned it. Without Carano, there's probably no women's UFC to begin with. Rousey owes her a lot. She owes Cyborg nothing. Less than nothing, actually. Cyborg has twice agreed to fight contenders at 135, then Rousey, and has twice backed out. If anyone owes anyone anything, Cyborg owes Rousey. Rousey has been expanding women's MMA practically single-handedly. Cyborg owes Rousey a ton. Her career would be nothing more than 5 figure fights, at best, against cans. Shes had a clear path to Rousey for years, and hasn't done it. On a similar but side note, card was kinda lame. Wayyyy too long for the fights it had. I know not every card can he UFC 189 material, but at this point you've got to pair Rousey with better prelims and main card fights. You know she's gonna annihilate her opponent in no time, gotta build a card around her. Dana has the right idea though, if he pairs Mcgregor-Aldo on the same night as Rousey-Tate 3. That first fight is gonna be awesome. That's bs. Ronda owes nothing to Carano. She put wmma on the map through strikeforce by being pretty and subbing everyone under a round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Lol Nick threw a water bottle at khabib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) How much weight does RR cut to get to 135? Cyborg is the only fighter who could be competitive with Rousey imo. Tate doesn't have the strength or athleticism. Zingano maybe could've been a nice fight just a bad strategy on her part. Where is Marloes?? The girl from the show(Pena) is still a bit green.......like Bethe but seems strong enough to not get completely bullied by RR. she cuts a lot of weight to make 135, she used to fight at 145 before dropping down to fight Meisha for her title I think Marloes is in Bellator now Lol Nick threw a water bottle at khabib. Dagestan>>>>>Stockton Edited August 2, 2015 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Khabib a terrible match up for Nate http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/video-nick-diaz-throwing-water-bottle-khabibs-head-start-brawl-3043329/ They actually brawled outside, I think Khabibs brother ended up on the ground, I can't really tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Like a walker on Hoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I would have been more likely to pay the $59.99, to see 30 seconds of the Nick/Nate/Khabib brawl, than the 30-second Rousey match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Carano did more for WMMA? Cyborg destroyed her. The only reason Carano was a big deal was because she's hot. She's the Anna Kornikova of WMMA. So? It's unfortunate that women's sports need a sex icon to truly grow, but one way or another, Carano grew WMMA. Yeah, Cyborg basically ended her career, but that doesn't change the fact that Carano helped to push the sport more towards mass recognition. That's bs. Ronda owes nothing to Carano. She put wmma on the map through strikeforce by being pretty and subbing everyone under a round. Carano was Rousey before Rousey was Rousey. She was the main draw for several years there, before she fought Cyborg. Rousey picked up where she left off, though yeah, Rousey has done a ton herself. Carano is deserving of some measure of respect. Meanwhile, setting aside that Cyborg juiced up to her eyeballs non-stop until 2011, she's backed out of promises to make 135 and fight contenders, twice. She can't keep her word. She doesn't deserve a catchweight. If she can't make 135 because she juiced too much in the past, tough, shoulda thought of that beforehand. Petition Dana for a 145 class, and then keep quiet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 pretty crazy that the two biggest stars in MMA today are a 135lb woman & a 145lb Irishman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 pretty crazy that the two biggest stars in MMA today are a 135lb woman & a 145lb Irishman I'd love to see McGregor-Rousey, as wacky (and definitely never happening) as that'd be. My initial feeling is that McGregor wins easy, but on second thought, Rousey can take punches (probably not nearly as many from McGregor as her usual opponents) and if she can survive to take him to the ground, since his takedown defense is so bad, she might be able to sneak in an armbar. I still figure McGregor would just overpower her on the ground, preventing an armbar and then standing up and striking her down, but who knows. It'd be interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 McGregor kos her within 30 seconds, are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 No man. Thatd be a massacre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Right and we don't know how juiced Cyborg was back in those days. It is usually safe to say that once you get popped for it, it's likely you were doing it for more then just THAT fight.Also, Cyborg is better than Carano, no one disputes that, but it's still Carano that got the eyeballs on WMMA. Partly because she is hot? Sure, but she was also beating her opponents. I believe she was undefeated up until the Cyborg fight. And let's not forget for those who actually saw that fight. Carano had Cyborg mounted and did nothing with it. Sorry, but if Carano can get Cyborg into that kind of position, Rousey is going to rag doll her when Cyborg pulls the usual "bull rush in and try to overwhlem opponent" If Rousey hadn't come along, I am not sure if Dana would have agreed to even build a WMMA division around the current crop of females. He should have either way, but it's Dana so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 McGregor kos her within 30 seconds, are you serious? I mean, probably, but McGregor didn't really protect himself from takedowns against Mendes. Rousey probably can't get inside his reach easily, I mean the man's got silly long arms, but she's not dumb either, she probably gameplans to get inside his guard and take him down. Whether she can do that is the hard part, but if she did she can probably give him a reasonably interesting match. Don't get me wrong, she can't overwhelm McGregor standing, that's a guaranteed loss, and if Mendes couldn't capitalize on, what, 5 takedowns, there's almost no chance 10 pounds lighter Rousey could, but McGregor does have a big blind spot in takedown defense; his best tool is that he can avoid submission. I would not be surprised if Rousey gave a fight similar to Mendes. I also wouldn't be surprised if McGregor knocked her out in the first punch. Guy packs a wallop. Still a fun counterfactual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 In every Ronda fight she bull rushes to get the takedown, she literally runs forward with her head up. She has been hit by everyone, no one has had the power or technique to punish her it. Connor will ko her easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Paul Harris needs to be suspended, dude gouged the **** out of Jake's eyes. He is dirty af. I feel bad for Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Paul Harris needs to be suspended, dude gouged the **** out of Jake's eyes. He is dirty af. I feel bad for Jake. Irony is that in the pre-fight talk Shields talked about how he was going to crank any submission he landed on Paul Harris damn shame Mr. Harris seems to be insane. Its deflecting from the fact that he submitted two of the hardest guys in MMA to submit in back to back fights. That was Shields' first loss by submission in a damn near 40 fight career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Rhonda Rousey may be my favorite non-DC athlete. The video at this link is NSFW (language) and amazing. http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/ronda-rousey-to-star-in-her-own-biopic.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 PTI started off with a Rousey segment. Bob Ryan, who has always bashed MMA, called her the touchstone athlete in all of sports right now. I don't think there's ever been this much buzz in America for anything MMA. It's beyond Chuck and Lesnar at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 "...Femininely badass as ****..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Rousey transcends her sport. She's known by people that don't normally care about mma. She's probably the biggest name in the ufc. Just read through the list of current champions and ask yourself "more famous than Ronda?" Let me know when you get to one that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Rousey transcends her sport. She's known by people that don't normally care about mma. She's probably the biggest name in the ufc. Just read through the list of current champions and ask yourself "more famous than Ronda?" Let me know when you get to one that is. Conor's the only one that comes close she's gone far beyond mma's scope and beyond the scope of sport in general. The only downside is that you have more people discussing a sport they know nothing about. Few things annoy me more than "casual" fight fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilandil Tasardur Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Conor's the only one that comes close she's gone far beyond mma's scope and beyond the scope of sport in general. The only downside is that you have more people discussing a sport they know nothing about. Few things annoy me more than "casual" fight fans. I can appreciate that. I'm an unusual "new" fan. I'm a 3rd degree MMA blackbelt, who just never followed the fight scene before Ronda. I don't know who the hell anyone is or if they are any good, but I know a ton about what I'm seeing when I watch. I'm really happy that Ronda and Connor have finally brought me into a sport that I have practiced my whole life but never bothered to follow professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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