mvisit1 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Anyone know of a link to the Dream fights from yesterday? Mostly interested about Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante's fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Well both Henderson and Wanderlei haven't won in the UFC since returning and by the time May rolls around, Rampage will have defended his title a grand total of 1 time within a year. Did Pride test for steroids? Because some of the guys like Wanderlei and Shogun don't look as buff as they were in Pride and they obviously look flat in the ring. _____________________________________________ Considering Hendo faced rampage and then Silva, I don't really knock him for those losses and Wandy fought a hard battle with Chuck. And I have no idea about Prides steroid policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Anyone know of a link to the Dream fights from yesterday? Mostly interested about Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante's fight. Check your pms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Considering Hendo faced rampage and then Silva, I don't really knock him for those losses and Wandy fought a hard battle with Chuck. And I have no idea about Prides steroid policy. I wasn't trying to knock them or anything I was just pointing it out. On this MMA radio show I listen to someone called in and brought up how guys like Wanderlei and Shogun looked out of shape and flat and was blaming it on a lax steroid policy at Pride, I'm curious to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I wasn't trying to knock them or anything I was just pointing it out. On this MMA radio show I listen to someone called in and brought up how guys like Wanderlei and Shogun looked out of shape and flat and was blaming it on a lax steroid policy at Pride, I'm curious to find out. The fighters will tell you they were tested in Pride. I don't think there is any documentation of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I wasn't trying to knock them or anything I was just pointing it out. On this MMA radio show I listen to someone called in and brought up how guys like Wanderlei and Shogun looked out of shape and flat and was blaming it on a lax steroid policy at Pride, I'm curious to find out. Other than Jackson and Silva, all the older vets have come over to UFC very flat. Rua had a trick knee though. I bet he couldn't rehab it with steroids in the UFC so he had to get in and fight on one leg. That may be where the lax part enters the picture in Pride. Maybe they were not so tough on using roids for injury.(?) Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Other than Jackson and Silva, all the older vets have come over to UFC very flat. Rua had a trick knee though. I bet he couldn't rehab it with steroids in the UFC so he had to get in and fight on one leg.That may be where the lax part enters the picture in Pride. Maybe they were not so tough on using roids for injury.(?) Just a thought. For ligament damage, wouldn't HGH work better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 For ligament damage, wouldn't HGH work better? Mag! Long time no see. I actually have no idea. I was just putting it out there for someone with more knowledge to offer their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Mag! Long time no see. I actually have no idea. I was just putting it out there for someone with more knowledge to offer their opinion. Been traveling way too much...To locations with limited...Well...Everything, to include access to the internets. As for knowledge on this subject, I'm definitely NOT someone with expert opinion. However, I have heard/read about the benefits of HGH injections for people with ligament damage in their knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvisit1 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks for the JZ link Sebowski! I wish I understood Japanese...what the hell happened? That was the longest injury timeout I've ever seen. Was it because of an illegal strike? The elbows looked clean to me, none of them hit the top/back of Aoki's head or his spine. I'm lost. Anyone have a link to Luigi Fioravanti's fight? It was on the most recent UFC PPV Fight Card, but they didn't show it. Instead they showed Sakara losing. American Top Team has 2 fighters on the card and they only show one of the fights, the loss. Absolute crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance04 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 QBkiller, to answer your question, pride did not test for steroids. Pride was self regulated. Look at photos of all the top names in pride and then look at them in the octagon. Wandy is the most obvious. shogun too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoEd Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 The fighters will tell you they were tested in Pride. I don't think there is any documentation of it though. It's well known that Pride didn't give a rats ass about steroid enforcement. They may have tested but that doesn't mean they did anything about it. Baroni? Mr Roid himself, that's why he'll never fight in the UFC. Guy can't get it done without the juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 It's well known that Pride didn't give a rats ass about steroid enforcement. They may have tested but that doesn't mean they did anything about it. Baroni? Mr Roid himself, that's why he'll never fight in the UFC. Guy can't get it done without the juice. QBkiller, to answer your question, pride did not test for steroids. Pride was self regulated. Look at photos of all the top names in pride and then look at them in the octagon. Wandy is the most obvious. shogun too. Thanks for the info. That's what I suspected. Wandy was just too damn huge in Pride compared to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 i found this short clip of Anderson Silva letting Jorge Rivera hit him in the clinch, then laughing at him: http://youtube.com/watch?v=8T7Nz6EHec0 the man's chin must be solid :laugh: but seriously, if a guy let me hit him in the face clean in the clinch multiple times, and he just laughed at me, i would probably just tap out from the laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Here's Ryo Chonan beating Anderson Silva, commentary by Josh Barnett. You can hear Anderson screaming. The last shot of the video shows how nasty Anderson's foot was turned. But what a prayer that got answered, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That heel hook was some fantastic execution. Dunno if I ever seen one done so well, that was all in one motion, phenemonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csq3fIlfK-Y&NR=1 Silva vs Okami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I BLAME OBAMA!! oops, wrong thread...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csq3fIlfK-Y&NR=1Silva vs Okami haha, doink! I'm actually one who thinks Silva isn't the hardest guy to take down for elite fighters. Okami is a ground and pound specialist. Anderson shouldn't let that happen again against Okami. Okami was getting some shots in there. Anderson will most likely own him in their next fight, however, Okami cannot be underestimated when he gets on top of someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Here are two clips of Rampage talking about TUF. I can't wait 'til this season, expecting some classic laughs. http://www.throwdown.com/throwdown_news.php?news_id=389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 mvisit1, looks like Luigi has a tough fight ahead of him. Diego Sanchez in the main event of the TUF finale. http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=11887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I didn't see this posted, but this is a rather lame article by, surprise, surprise, Len Shapiro: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801221.html Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I didn't see this posted, but this is a rather lame article by, surprise, surprise, Len Shapiro:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801221.html Disgusting. And here is Mark Cuban's response http://www.blogmaverick.com/2008/03/18/this-guy-proves-anyone-with-a-keyboard-can-be-stupid/ I love Mark Cuban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I didn't see this posted, but this is a rather lame article by, surprise, surprise, Len Shapiro:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801221.html Disgusting. Shapiro is such a douche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 And here is Mark Cuban's responsehttp://www.blogmaverick.com/2008/03/18/this-guy-proves-anyone-with-a-keyboard-can-be-stupid/ I love Mark Cuban Good for Mark :applause: Shapiro probably skimmed it and blew it off. What a little nerd-ass wannabe. He needs to do some actual research before he mouths off. Football, his favorite sport to write about, is completely and utterly more injury-riddled than MMA. Does he ever address that? His article is so pompously off base I don't even want to address it unless I can sit down with him and have a civil debate, which you know he'd be too insecure to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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