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What I like about MMA is that there aren't 9 million weight classes like in boxing. I have a fav fighter at each weight class, BJ is my fav LW and GSP is my fav WW. But if I have to pick one, it's BJ. I lived in Hawaii when I was little and have lots of family there. He's the hometown hero. I also have a TON of respect for his BJJ abilities, earning his Black Belt in 3 years AND being the first non-Brazilian to win 1st place in the Black Belt Division at the Mundials? Ridiculous. He truly is a prodigy. FYI it takes the average person 8-10 years to earn a BJJ Black Belt. You can do it in 5-7 if you're young, athletic, and a fast learner.

What's up guys? Sorry it's been a while. I kind of quit posting here when the Skins started laying eggs on offense week after week. I spend a lot of time on Sherdog now. Lots of guys trading experience/advice about gear and training methods, it's great. I stay away from the "Best P4P" and "Fedor Nuthugging" threads though, they're full of teenagers and ppl who don't train.

What's PTI?

It's something about that cage...Machida's other fights in rings were pretty damn good... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kptigxw1YI&feature=related

I don't see what the problem with Machida's stand up is. He hits you and then he's gone when you go to hit him back. Isn't that the idea? I personally don't like to stand there and get hit.

I like that, Joe Rogan should have said that instead of "putting on a show is just as important as winning" or however it was worded.

Joe's comment...hmmm...winning is important but so is putting on a good show so no argument there. As for your fear, I'm not afraid as of right now. When the fighters stop training wrestling & BJJ and I see training clips of them just throwing haymakers on the mitts then I'll be worried.

It's a give and take with the whole "put on a show" thing. The better the show you put on, the more fans like it, the more PPV you sell, the more money you make. Tough to not want to put on a good show. Remember, this IS how these guys make a living. They're "Professional" Fighters. That's the difference between pro and amateur fighting, there's money involved. Don't you go to work to make money to put a roof over your head, food on the table and clothes on your back? Don't you do the things that you do at work to try and get noticed to get that promotion/make more money than the next guy so that you can get a better house, better car/clothes and/or extend your lifestyle onto a spouse/kids? It's no different in the UFC, except their cubicle is an octagon. What IS keeping the sport pure is the fact that these guys are really fighting! The blood's real, the strikes are real, and the winner isn't pre-picked. I'm happy with that.

LOL at the guy above me. However, it makes me feel like I'm the only person in here saying anything of substance. I dropped 2 pearls of wisdom on the previous page and I have yet to hear a response. I wanna talk MMA and all I hear is Brock this, whine that, and GSP is licking his nipples? LOL

Just playing devil's advocate... In boxing, the undefeated P4P kings like Mayweather and Roy Jones Jr. (undefeated until late in his career) were often criticized for playing it safe and not fighting the exciting fight. Fans love a war but bobbing, weaving, throwing pot shots, and out pointing your opponent wins fights. In MMA, this makes me think of going for takedown points, "laying and praying" in someone's guard, and throwing little kidney punches hoping to grind out a decision. Is this what you speak of?

THANK YOU! I feel the same way about the clinch. Educate yourselves people! Pummeling (action to achieve underhooks - best position for control and takedowns) Whizzer (0:06) (overhooks are not ideal, but if opponent is good at pummeling and getting underhooks, the whizzer is a good counter, especially when you're pushed up against a cage) Plum - Muay Thai Clinch (I wish I could have found you guys a better video. A correctly executed Plum uses the forearms pinched together under the jawbone to block the bottom door escape, but this is a good video of what to do against an incorrectly placed Thai clinch) Karo Parisyan has some good Judo for MMA instructionals (Uchi-mata) (Seoi-nagi) Vids are great but training is better. Go take a class! Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Judo, BJJ, it doesn't matter, just train! You'll get in great shape, have a better chance at defending yourself hand to hand if the situation presents itself, and best of all you'll be educated! Then go to every MMA PPV fight party you can and educate all of the idiots around you of all of the technique that's happening when all they see is a "brawl".

It doesn't matter the show, UFC, EliteXC, or some other up and comer...their owners will all tell you they have the best fighters. It would be a conflict of interest for them not to. You guys raised some interesting points, but I don't hear about how you would have run UFC differently and still been as successful if not more than Dana, while not pissing off all of the idealists.

What's with all the Dana bashing? IMO he's running his business the way it should be run. Think like an EMPLOYER for once and not an EMPLOYEE, would you run UFC differently than he does and still be as successful as he is? Let's be grownups. If you want to quote me and respond use facts and support your statements. On a sidenote... One of my fantasy football league's is drafting tomorrow @ 9pm and I won't be by a computer so I have to pre-rank my pics. Anyone wanna PM me or post a link to a good draft list?

Damn Micah got KO'd...Maybe Mike Brown will do better???

ATT! Go Micah!

You love their attitude? I can see someone liking Nick, but Nate is a huge d-bag. He talks and acts like those uneducated punks you see at clubs/bars/parties always trying to start something because someone looked at them the "wrong way". I know that there's always going to be people that act like that, but a professional fighter?

It looks like he was talking **** to that guy before their fight (during the referee review of rules/staredown) the other night on Elite XC...what was all that about? Looked pretty classless to me.

Isn't Big John retired?

I'm Filipino so I'm pulling for Vera.

I think some of you are forgetting the TRUE meaning of what the term "best pound for pound" fighter is. Someone does not actually have to fight at different weight classes to be considered for the title of p4p best. It has to do with skillsets and hypotheticals, NOT weight. It's not about who moved up/down in weight, was impressive in one weight class but not another, etc. The talk should be about who's boxing is better, who's better in the clinch, who's a better wrestler, who has better BJJ, etc. For example, Tim Sylvia would kill Urija Faber in a real match due to the size and strength difference. BUT, it's not hard to see that despite the size and strength difference, Faber is easily the better fighter. His pace and cardio are far better than Sylvia's, as is his ground game. Therefore, pound for pound, Urijah Faber is a better fighter than Tim Sylvia.

Dennis Kang? ATT!!!

The rules may not specifically say it in so many words, but I think it's common sense. If you're roughed up and I don't have a scratch on me, doesn't mean that I'm landing more and you're not? Isn't landing more techniques on your opponent then he lands on you the way you get a 10 instead of an 8 or 9?

Anyone else notice Forrest's few weak and improperly thrown knees from the clinch?

Sorry dude, but I have to disagree with the "fierce GnP". Forrest spent a lot of the 2nd round in the mount but I don't think he did any REAL damage. Yes, Forrest landed A LOT of leg kicks BUT with the 1st round uppercut that nearly ended the fight and the later round cut, I felt that Rampage did more damage than Forrest did. Rampage's post fight facial condition looked the same as it did pre-fight. I'm not sure how I feel about the scoring of sub attempts. Although it wasn't the case in the Forrest-Rampage fight, I don't believe that any advantage should be given to a fighter who has guard that continually throws there legs up looking for triangles and armbars that end up being unsuccessful. Let's say the guy with guard goes for 15 sub attempts that are all unsuccessful but the guy on top lands 3 big clean punches to the face, who should get the advantage on the scorecards?