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***2018-19 NBA Season Thread***

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2 hours ago, Renegade7 said:

 

We've gone over this Ad nauseam in the Wizards thread, I've lost patience with the "he's not used correctly" excuse for Otto.  He's the highest paid player on the team this year, either demand to be used differently, publicly at this point, or learn to play differently.   The man has more excuses then handles, and that seems to be the constant excuse to make further excuses for him.  You can keep doing it, you've made good points before, but I'm done.  Otto needs to change to change my mind. 

  

KAT and Wiggins are soft, Beal and Wall are not.  If we're crazy enough to take a flyer on Howard this is right up our alley.  Maybe I need to see more Butler play, timid is not what comes to mind.  I'm tired of our third star playing like his locker is in the boiler room and someone took his stapler, I'm fine with a little nasty aggression right now. 

 

Otto is not soft man.  He's the best defensive player and tough rebounder on the team and he's also the best shotmaker.  I don't know why you've taken to scapegoating him so intensively but it's bizarre.

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4 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

Otto is not soft man.  He's the best defensive player and tough rebounder on the team and he's also the best shotmaker.  I don't know why you've taken to scapegoating him so intensively but it's bizarre.

 

Scapegoating would be to on insinuate I'm blaming him for us losing, that's not where I am with this team (think it's more us looking like 4 on 5 a lot with out attrocious center play).

 

It's the expectations that come with him being our third max player and supposed to be third star.  If he wasn't making max, I wouldn't be this hard on him.  I can only go what he says and what he does, he's still acting like a really good glue player, we never shoulda given him that money if he couldn't break out of that mindset.  That much money he should be demanding the ball, but I never get that vibe from him.  Ever.

 

It's frustration, Steve.  Hes not aggressive or assertive enough to deserve to be a max player and that effects the rest of the payroll with that contract.  Feel like you and Des are two of the few people left trying to make most of the fact he just doesn't demand the ball enough to be a max player.  His efficiency doesn't match his production, he's a 14/6 player because he seems fine with that role.  That contract makes that role unacceptable to me, it wouldn't take much to address it, but it never happens, same thing and over again.

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1 hour ago, Renegade7 said:

Hes not aggressive or assertive enough to deserve to be a max player and that effects the rest of the payroll with that contract. 

 

He deserves a max contract because that's what the market said he was worth when he hit free agency.  We didn't arbitrarily give him that deal, we matched the offer sheet he signed with Brooklyn.  The choices at the time were keep one of our best players or let him walk for nothing and still not have any cap space.

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1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

He deserves a max contract because that's what the market said he was worth when he hit free agency.  We didn't arbitrarily give him that deal, we matched the offer sheet he signed with Brooklyn.  The choices at the time were keep one of our best players or let him walk for nothing and still not have any cap space.

 

That sounds like something someone would say about Kirk Cousins.  I don't need a history leason, I was here when it happened, too.

 

  I'm not going to change my position just because we were forced into it.  Saying he's one of our best players misses my point, so please don't come at me with "what would you have done instead", that's like telling me to shut up an eat my **** pie. Even if I told you, it's irrelevant and doesn't address our current situation, which is Otto being underutilized and him being fine with it.

 

 It's getting old.

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Golden State over Toronto in the Finals in six.  Kawhi wins MVP.  Curry wins Finals MVP.

I've already seen enough.  These two teams are better than everyone else.

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How is Michael Carter-Williams getting run for HOU? Has he had some kind of resurgence I'm not aware of?

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Nice little left hook from Rondo. 

 

**** CP3.

 

Don't know what the **** Ingram's deal is. He looks one wax hit away from his eyes permanently being closed. You expect more from a Blue Devil.

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So CP3 is tryin to say Rondo spit in his face. Replays look like Rondo wasn't even looking at Paul when Paul stepped to him... :rolleyes:

 

Then he tried to say he "threw spit" at him... :rolleyes:

 

Hope this puts a spotlight on the dirty player/punk ***** that CP3 is.

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Cp3 is a **** and always has been. I assume it’s his short man complex but he’s also just a punk. 

5 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

Golden State over Toronto in the Finals in six.  Kawhi wins MVP.  Curry wins Finals MVP.

I've already seen enough.  These two teams are better than everyone else.

 

If curry didn’t win finals mvp last year I don’t see him winning it 

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CP3 will weasel out of this somehow and get a slap on the wrist.  I hope I’m wrong, but that’s what I expect.

 

What got into Ingram anyway?  He was big mad, and there didn’t seem to be a real cause for it.  

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