dfitzo53 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by dreamingwolf space cadet we arent mad that you reposted something from 2 years ago, we are just pointing out that your propagating anti american propaganda. If your cool with trying to undermine america thats cool, thats your right. Just dont get defensive when we call you on it. Be honest in your efforts, dont defend your subversion. If this isn't a joke it's ridiculous at best. An attempt to "undermine america" is a pretty stiff accusation. Spiff just thought it was an interesting movie. So did I, the first time I saw it. Since I'm not an idiot, as you seem to think Americans are, I did a little research after I saw it the first time and of course concluded it's a hoax. No harm, no foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsHokieFan Hahaha, that is funny I'll cut you some slack, the old threads on this are probably in the archives now I am sure though you see what crap this is, even though someone manages to do a good job of showing their agenda Yeah, I totally see what crap it is. It just (still) mystifies me that people can warp perceptions with cool music and cuts and whatnot. But yeah, I'm off on my quest to keep undermining America. And you saw the beginning, right here on extremeskins.com! I think I'll head over to Fedex Field, do some undermining there, and then go to the Orioles and Wizards forums and undermine America there, too. Seems like a good place to start. Anyone with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 follow the tracks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by dreamingwolf follow the tracks back what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 My belief is that a plane did crash. I have family that live in the DC area that noticed a plane flying low on that day. I was away at the time. The one thing I know is that I lost a friend I went to high school with in the Pentagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by SkinsHokieFan This has been on here and discussed so much Lets just say living 8 miles from the Pentagon I call BS In fact I know several people who saw an airplane hit. So that theory can shove it And last question of course.... where are the passengers? My dad lived down Columbia Pike about 5 miles from the Pentagon on the 3rd floor of a high-rise, and they felt the condo shake when the plane hit. Unless the pentagon set off some sort of seismic device, I think its safe to say that a plane definitely hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69363&perpage=15&display=&highlight=snopes%20and%20pentagon&pagenumber=1 I knew two people in the Pentagon that died through my wife working with them from the Hoffman building,. I went and sat with her in the auditorium honoring them at the pentagon... I also worked down in the Army Operations Center in the basement and later on the 4th floor in the Air Force Help Desk (4c863) I believe.. It's not a secret building of robots... They are regular people... Set to "cool" music and blood red letters is not what they were trying to do... They died due to a terrorist attack: no more/no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Top right of the page, it's called search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsuck Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm in case it hasn't been posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 That was an interesting video but it is also interesting how they chose to totally disregard all the evidence that proves what they are promoting 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 My father lost two employees on the plane and the really bad thing is that almost everyone in his office saw the plane go into the pentagon from their office which is about 1 1/2 miles away. I worried for my fathers safety because the ATF is based out of the same building that his office is in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 A couple other times this subject has been addressed here: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70957&highlight=pentagon+conspiracy http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69363&perpage=15&display=&highlight=pentagon%20conspiracy&pagenumber=1 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9813&highlight=pentagon+conspiracy They usually don't end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Just for the sake of continuity when dealing with this. I'll pose the same question again. If a plane didnt crash into the pentagon, then where is the missing plane and the passengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcc Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by Renegade7 The people who are responsible for this already admitted they did, and we're over in the Middle East blowing those SOB's to dust. wow, i probably should pay more attention to the news, because i missed all this. could you please provide a link to a reliable news source that has info on this "confession"? i know osama's group denied any involvement not long after the fact, but you couldn't be talking about them anyway, because they're not being "blowed to dust". i never even heard any speculation that the afghani govt. was responsible, they just would not turn over someone that may or may not have been in their country to a lynch mob that had no valid evidence that said person was even guilty, and said person was not found in their country even after said country was "blowed to dust", so you can't be talking about them. and the reason for the conflict in iraq was because of the invisible WMD's they were stockpiling. i assume they were invisible since nobody could find one even after "blowing their country to dust". at the time the "dust blowing" started there was not any mention that iraq had anything to do with osama or 911, so unless you can go back after a war is over and change the reason said war started, then you can't be talking about iraq. so please fill me in on what i missed. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by Kilmer17 If a plane didnt crash into the pentagon, then where is the missing plane and the passengers? Area 51 of course. ...along with Elvis and Tupac. And if you give me a minute, I can make a video that proves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Is Biggie there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by Heidenreich Is Biggie there too? Nah, he's now one of the judges on American Idol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick301 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by Maxito I found this on the internet. It saids that they have Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html I've seen that site. That article was done fairly well. There will always be those who refuse to believe the truth - even if it hit them square between the eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by rcc wow, i probably should pay more attention to the news, because i missed all this. could you please provide a link to a reliable news source that has info on this "confession"? i know osama's group denied any involvement not long after the fact, but you couldn't be talking about them anyway, because they're not being "blowed to dust". i never even heard any speculation that the afghani govt. was responsible, they just would not turn over someone that may or may not have been in their country to a lynch mob that had no valid evidence that said person was even guilty, and said person was not found in their country even after said country was "blowed to dust", so you can't be talking about them. and the reason for the conflict in iraq was because of the invisible WMD's they were stockpiling. i assume they were invisible since nobody could find one even after "blowing their country to dust". at the time the "dust blowing" started there was not any mention that iraq had anything to do with osama or 911, so unless you can go back after a war is over and change the reason said war started, then you can't be talking about iraq. so please fill me in on what i missed. thanks http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/11/wbin11.xml http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/05/alqaeda.911.claim/index.html http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.obltape.reax/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/binladen.tape/index.html "Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated," bin Laden said. We went into Afghanistan and started killing Al qeida and Taliban right and left. Al Qeida did 9/11, the Taliban wouldn't give us what we wanted, so we went to work on them. Why are you talking about Iraq? You're right. You should maybe pay more attention to the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by rcc wow, i probably should pay more attention to the news, because i missed all this. could you please provide a link to a reliable news source that has info on this "confession"? i know osama's group denied any involvement not long after the fact, but you couldn't be talking about them anyway, because they're not being "blowed to dust". i never even heard any speculation that the afghani govt. was responsible, they just would not turn over someone that may or may not have been in their country to a lynch mob that had no valid evidence that said person was even guilty, and said person was not found in their country even after said country was "blowed to dust", so you can't be talking about them. and the reason for the conflict in iraq was because of the invisible WMD's they were stockpiling. i assume they were invisible since nobody could find one even after "blowing their country to dust". at the time the "dust blowing" started there was not any mention that iraq had anything to do with osama or 911, so unless you can go back after a war is over and change the reason said war started, then you can't be talking about iraq. so please fill me in on what i missed. thanks Thanks for the most moronic post of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 rcc Terrible post. You appparently missed the self-congratulatory video showing Osama and others talking about the 9/11 attacks, praising Allah and talkign about SPECIFIC ASPECTS of the plans. Or subsequent media releases and video where they talk about it. or Zarqawi's involvement in Iraq and a pattern of terrorist activity targeting civilians or that we DID uh, engage in a war against the Taliban whose government was toppled. Seriously, you've got to be kidding me. You DO need to keep up with the news more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Terrible post. You appparently missed the self-congratulatory video showing Osama and others talking about the 9/11 attacks, praising Allah and talkign about SPECIFIC ASPECTS of the plans.Or subsequent media releases and video where they talk about it. or Zarqawi's involvement in Iraq and a pattern of terrorist activity targeting civilians or that we DID uh, engage in a war against the Taliban whose government was toppled. Seriously, you've got to be kidding me. You DO need to keep up with the news more. Well, Bin Laden was not well informed, since he talked about the "iron supports" melting, which isn't true, since steel was used in the WTC. Also, there have been engineer experts who have come foward and said it was impossible for jet fuel to have cause the steel structures to melt in such a fashion. Do we remember the fire in Spain a few months back? The entire building burned for days and never collapsed. Plus, he really didn't talk too much about the attack that wasn't already well known. Really, besides this tape, do we have any evidence that Bin Laden was behind this attack? I don't mean this to be a dismissive question, but it is a honest one. If this was a criminal investigation, where *was* the investigation? Where is the evidence that removes all doubt, other than this video tape? And I am not trying to be smart with this question, either. Also, some folks are wondering if that film of Bin Laden was even real, since the person in the footage, when compared to Bin Laden, does not even look like the man. Which could mean that either he was too sick to even be taped, or it was a fraud, or other reasons. There has been a lot of information, concerning the 9-11 "truth movement," that has come out. Ghost, you may be the one that should be more with the news. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 The KSM capture And I suggest you read "Ghost Wars' by Stephen Coll Gave incredible detail and evidence as to what happened from 1979 till September 10th in Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Originally posted by Baculus Also, there have been engineer experts who have come foward and said it was impossible for jet fuel to have cause the steel structures to melt in such a fashion. News to me. I'd be interested to read more about this. They dont have to completely melt. Given the incredible weight of the Trade Center Towers, the structural integrity can be affected without liquefication of the metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Uhhhhhhhhh We saw the planes crash into the buildings. Someone honestly believes explosives were in the building? Please.... Every time a building is destroyed, someone is there arguing explosives were already there( see OKC, even a couple Waco theories.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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