clskinsfan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said: We need to pick the best damn offensive tackle available with every one of our first 4 picks. Ok. Maybe that’s extreme. I’ll take tackle in the first, and then I don’t care, tackle or guard for the next 3 spots. Tackle isnt the weakest part of our OL though. Guard is. And you can get a really good guard in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, clskinsfan said: Tackle isnt the weakest part of our OL though. Guard is. And you can get a really good guard in round 2. Wylie would like a word. And Leno is ok but old. Cosmi is pretty good, and Paul is going to be ok. Upgrade, yes. But fix tackle first. You need 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, clskinsfan said: Tackle isnt the weakest part of our OL though. Guard is. And you can get a really good guard in round 2. Agreed. But Wylie can play LG too if an OT is the BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Wylies contract is not an albatross. He'd be an expensive backup swing OT, but not that big of one. Adding on Leno's average salary and a 1st round OT's salary and the entire OT unit would look very reasonable even with Wylie at backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Chicago winning last night hurts our 2nd rounder from them, but it probably was for the best as we don't want NYG anywhere near the top two picks. Chicago also owns that pick so they had extra incentive for Carolina to lose. Panthers remaining schedule is: Dallas @ Titans @ Bucs @ Saints Falcons Packers @ Jags Bucs They will be favored to lose the remaining games, but I could see them winning a game or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Wylie would like a word. And Leno is ok but old. Cosmi is pretty good, and Paul is going to be ok. Upgrade, yes. But fix tackle first. You need 2. Yeah to me RT is the code red spot. LT is fine but Leno is aging. From what I watched of Wylie i think he likely is an average guard. Likely better at that spot than at tackle IMO. IMO. Stromberg and Larsen at center is fine. Paul-Charles at LG is a wild card. Cosmi is good at RG. Wylie is a bad right tackle. If the idea is to win now, they can do fine with Leno at tackle. Draft a LT have them play for now RT. And draft a stud at LG. Edited November 10, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) I am a BPA guy. But if I am going purely to need. LT moved to RT for now or straight up RT LG TE RB with breakaway speed. LB Edge The new anayltics guy, seems to value TEs and stud RBs based on the lecture I watched. That's a long list but with the number of picks they have and cap room, I think they can fill it. I expect a FO change so we might escape the need based drafting from this regime, and the lets paid a band aid over a gushing wound apporach. Edited November 10, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Wow, Zak Zinter just tossing people left and right like the Juggernaut. That's Penn State too, not some schlub bottom feeder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Wow, Zak Zinter just tossing people left and right like the Juggernaut. That's Penn State too, not some schlub bottom feeder. I haven't sat down and watched anyone yet. But I love the profile of tough SOB interior lineman who play in the big 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I think we need to be looking at tackle primarily in this draft. Having said that, FA will be interesting. Lucas is a FA, so at the least we need two tackles (re-signing Lucas would count as one of the two) but Lucas is aging a bit. I think I'd re-sign him. If we can manage to get a second tackle, we now have options for what we focus on. LT can mean we move on from Leno and give us cap space that we may or may not need, depending on what we bring in. RT can displace Lucas/other FA/Wylie from the RT spot (which is dire). I'm not big on Wylie. Frankly I think he has stunk for us. But I wonder what he can do at LG. If he is decent and he and Paul compete I am much more comfortable there. I'm fine with Larsen/Stromberg at center for now. I'd like to add a guard and a tackle via the draft. But like I've said I think we have a few other red alert spots, too. Dynamic RB, A possession receiver (Tall... like Anthony Mix), a freakin' linebacker, a playmaking tight end (and hopefully we keep Logan as TE2) Those things change our entire dynamic The good news is that we have some ammo to do some things. Hopefully whoever is making decisions for us at that time has a solid plan in place. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, KDawg said: A possession receiver Michael Pittman is a free agent this year. He is high on my want list--which is ironic, since he is the player the Colts took with one of the picks we traded them for Montez Sweat. I think he'd work in well with McLaurin and Dotson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I am an O line guy in this draft. i think we are boxed into the first round. But as for WRs, I'll pay attention. I think Howell though will benefit more from a big athletic TE. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Michael Pittman is a free agent this year. He is high on my want list--which is ironic, since he is the player the Colts took with one of the picks we traded them for Montez Sweat. I think he'd work in well with McLaurin and Dotson. Pittman and T Higgins were a couple of my WR crushes and still are! Pittman would be an awesome FA get making the draft clearer That said, OT needs to be the top priority Edited November 10, 2023 by DWinzit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Michael Pittman is a free agent this year. He is high on my want list--which is ironic, since he is the player the Colts took with one of the picks we traded them for Montez Sweat. I think he'd work in well with McLaurin and Dotson. He'd be a good get. He was one of my man crushes the year after Terry at WR. I touted Terry's intangibles the year he was coming out and some asked me who was the highest intangible guy at WR that struck me Terryish, I said Pittman. I don't recall the whole rap years later but I do remember loving what I read about him as a dude. Tough blocker, at least he was in college. Edited November 10, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Michael Pittman is a free agent this year. He is high on my want list--which is ironic, since he is the player the Colts took with one of the picks we traded them for Montez Sweat. I think he'd work in well with McLaurin and Dotson. I love Pittman. I wouldn’t mind getting him and finding a mid round receiver in the possession mold, too. McLaurin Dotson Pittman Crowder Mid Round Pringle/Brown/Whoever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown43 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Michael Pittman is a free agent this year. He is high on my want list--which is ironic, since he is the player the Colts took with one of the picks we traded them for Montez Sweat. I think he'd work in well with McLaurin and Dotson. Absolutely. For me Pittman or Higgins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo#44 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, DWinzit said: That said, OT needs to be the top priority Wholly agree--I am all in to trade up for Alt or Fashanu. Unfortunately, there are two OL on NFL's top 50 FAs: Jonah Williams and Mike Onwenu. I didn't think Williams was very good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 BYU makes me pause. But his size -- girth look impressive. He's Sewell's cousin. i like the attitude. It's early. but for now I am with @KDawg everything being equal, i'd like two tackles. This draft at least in theory looks unusually deep and it might be a rare time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 10 hours ago, clskinsfan said: Tackle isnt the weakest part of our OL though. Guard is. And you can get a really good guard in round 2. Really statistically you can find good guards in any round. I think using a second on a guard isn’t the best use of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 11 hours ago, clskinsfan said: Tackle isnt the weakest part of our OL though. Guard is. And you can get a really good guard in round 2. Wylie leads the league in pressures allowed and sacks… or close, isn’t he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I think you guys are underestimating how much of a need WR actually is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I think you guys are underestimating how much of a need WR actually is. I don’t think we are. We’re advocating for signing Pittman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, KDawg said: I don’t think we are. We’re advocating for signing Pittman. That's fair. I'd love to draft a real physical specimen stud though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: That's fair. I'd love to draft a real physical specimen stud though. I think this board would meltdown, but Keon Coleman is such a beast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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