Warhead36 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Im out on Caleb. He screams diva to me. Locker room will hate him. If were not drafting Maye Im not going QB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Im out on Caleb. He screams diva to me. Locker room will hate him. If were not drafting Maye Im not going QB. The way Howell is playing, there's no need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: The way Howell is playing, there's no need. Id still consider Maye if were somehow picking top 2-3. Hes just that good and its no knock on Howell but Im never upset with trying to hit home runs at QB. Its a moot point anyway. We wont even be oickin top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Wow. Giants getting thumped 24-0 at the half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris 44 said: Wow. Giants getting thumped 24-0 at the half. Its embarrassing we lost to them. Absolute dumpster fire franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Warhead36 said: Its embarrassing we lost to them. Absolute dumpster fire franchise. They are playing a team being coached by a first game HC also. Yep, our coaching is embarrassing at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Its embarrassing we lost to them. Absolute dumpster fire franchise. Us or them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Us or them? Yes 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chris 44 said: Wow. Giants getting thumped 24-0 at the half. They're going to end up with a top QB and not be able to take advantage of the rookie contract, because they have that heap of a QB contract sitting on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Us or them? OUCH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Been doing some thinking and I think this team’s most glaring, red alert needs are the following: OT (either side.) LB Tight End (to pair with #2 Thomas) Possession Receiver (some size, strength and not slow) Dynamic RB Not necessarily in order. We could use another tackle, a guard, a second LB, a corner, potentially safety depending on Curl and an edge. But I think the 5 spots I named above are the ones to flip the fortunes most quickly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, KDawg said: Been doing some thinking and I think this team’s most glaring, red alert needs are the following: OT (either side.) LB Tight End (to pair with #2 Thomas) Possession Receiver (some size, strength and not slow) Dynamic RB Not necessarily in order. We could use another tackle, a guard, a second LB, a corner, potentially safety depending on Curl and an edge. But I think the 5 spots I named above are the ones to flip the fortunes most quickly. I agree along with an Edge. Going into 2023 the main needs in no particular order were OT, C, TE, LB, Dynamic RB, CB That shows a poor off season of addressing the biggest needs. Just disappointing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Everything really hinges on what happens with Rivera and Howell. If Rivera gets another year, then Howell is safe and there is no way we go QB in the first. If Rivera is out and the next regime isn't willing to sit tight on Howell and pass over QB, then our draft is going to be about the QBs. A lot is in flux right now, including the quality of our pick. Our options change drastically if we go from picking 9th to 19th. The no brainer types like Brock Bowers and Jared Verse will be long gone in the latter scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, KDawg said: Been doing some thinking and I think this team’s most glaring, red alert needs are the following: OT (either side.) LB Tight End (to pair with #2 Thomas) Possession Receiver (some size, strength and not slow) Dynamic RB Not necessarily in order. We could use another tackle, a guard, a second LB, a corner, potentially safety depending on Curl and an edge. But I think the 5 spots I named above are the ones to flip the fortunes most quickly. I'd add center at the top of that list. but agree otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I'd add center at the top of that list. but agree otherwise. I’m not ready to give up on Larsen or Stromberg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Going Commando said: Everything really hinges on what happens with Rivera and Howell. If Rivera gets another year, then Howell is safe and there is no way we go QB in the first. If Rivera is out and the next regime isn't willing to sit tight on Howell and pass over QB, then our draft is going to be about the QBs. A lot is in flux right now, including the quality of our pick. Our options change drastically if we go from picking 9th to 19th. The no brainer types like Brock Bowers and Jared Verse will be long gone in the latter scenario. Theres no chance Rivera returns barring a miracle playoff run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: I’m not ready to give up on Larsen or Stromberg. Larson is a solid back up and we don't know about Strom yet, but bringing in another center in the draft doesn't mean we're giving up on Strom, any more than drafting a QB means giving up on Howell. Currently, Center is a problem and a drastic one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Larson is a solid back up and we don't know about Strom yet, but bringing in another center in the draft doesn't mean we're giving up on Strom, any more than drafting a QB means giving up on Howell. Currently, Center is a problem and a drastic one. I don’t see it the same. Not since Larsen has been there. But I do think IOL in general is important. So if Strom is playing guard, then center is important. If Strom is playing center, then guard is important. All assuming Larsen returns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, KDawg said: I don’t see it the same. Not since Larsen has been there. But I do think IOL in general is important. So if Strom is playing guard, then center is important. If Strom is playing center, then guard is important. All assuming Larsen returns. Larson has been an improvement, as has Paul, but neither are actually very good blockers. I don't see either even becoming an all pro and I think that's a must at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Larson has been an improvement, as has Paul, but neither are actually very good blockers. I don't see either even becoming an all pro and I think that's a must at center. Ya that should be on the list. But I’m not sure about immediate top 5 need. If we were to luck into a spot where the center was the best OL available at our pick I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed. Just dont think it’s as pressing as the other spots this year. But we need to address it somewhere soon. That or guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, KDawg said: Ya that should be on the list. But I’m not sure about immediate top 5 need. If we were to luck into a spot where the center was the best OL available at our pick I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed. Just dont think it’s as pressing as the other spots this year. But we need to address it somewhere soon. That or guard. Obviously we need young OL, but if we moved Wylie to LG and drafted best available tackle to play RT, does that improve the line significantly in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, mhd24 said: Obviously we need young OL, but if we moved Wylie to LG and drafted best available tackle to play RT, does that improve the line significantly in your opinion? If we moved Wylie to the Mars Explorer team it would drastically improve the line. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, KDawg said: Ya that should be on the list. But I’m not sure about immediate top 5 need. If we were to luck into a spot where the center was the best OL available at our pick I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed. Just dont think it’s as pressing as the other spots this year. But we need to address it somewhere soon. That or guard. Looking forward a few years, I don't see much of a priority above OL and it starts in the middle. Getting a Howell and Center and a TE (big bodied WR would be great too) would go a million miles for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I'd add center at the top of that list. but agree otherwise. Me too, Center, RT, LG, TE/ big WR, DE/LB, All-purpose RB. would be my list but take them on best player first on OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, KDawg said: I don’t see it the same. Not since Larsen has been there. But I do think IOL in general is important. So if Strom is playing guard, then center is important. If Strom is playing center, then guard is important. All assuming Larsen returns. With this regime i still hear they like Stromberg better at center, as do I. will see about the next regime. I did watch some Beebe last year, for some reason thinking flasely he was coming out in that draft and I was impressed but haven't watched him this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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