The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 42 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: I’m going to temper some of the enthusiasm for Howell and point out that according to Logan Paulsen, Turner put on training wheels for Sam such that he didn’t have to read the defense against Dallas. Many of the plays were Sam looking at one route/option and making the decision. And THAT is why Turner had to go. It it works and the players execute..you don't go all Einstein on them. Turner called plays to his ego not situational football. That move is worth 3 wins. Even TH would have gotten us there...Hey Turner..Thomas in the red zone dude... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Depending on where the deal is, Bezos/Jay Z could easily be back-channeling with Brady (and communicating with Ron). I have no idea. But the timing is tight enough that it could go either way. For Tom, we have great pass-catchers, good backs, a great defense, in a weak conference, and are almost assuredly going to revamp the O Line. OC vacancy means he can be consulted on who he wants to work with. With proper assurances on new ownership, it’s as good a situation for Tom to “win now” as any. Especially since he won’t cost $40M and will leave enough room to sign Payne. Not that it matters, but I believe I was the first to float Brady potentially coming here with new ownership months ago and took some ridicule for the suggestion. I continue to believe it’s more likely than most people think, though I’m not ready to say it’s probable. I'm with you, it is just the timing seeming so tight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolves92 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) The draft order of any player at any position doesnt indicate how they will end up performing in their career. mr irrelevant (brock purdy) is balling out this year. taylor was living at his sisters/not even in the nfl but even he is better than wentz who was drafted #2 overall. Zac Wilson(also #2 overall) is trash so far. Sam deserves a shot imo and he shouldnt have this corny 5th round label on him. anything is possible. Edited January 12 by Redwolves92 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I just want to go all in on Howell in 2023, suround him with better OL and couple of players here and there and see what we have got in him as our QB. Bring a vet QB in by all means but don't waste 30m or so cap space doing it. In Howell We Trust HTTR 5 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 (edited) I want NONE parts of 2023 Brady. 2020 Brady was great, but Father Time is finally winning that battle and still bats 1.000. Go all in on Sam, draft a mid round backup QB, invest in the OL, TE, LB and Safety positions and get your popcorn ready. Edited January 12 by LetThePointsSoar 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) At this point, Brady’s cap hit next year is likely to be around $15-20M. Not that expensive, the GOAT, still playing well, could be great for Howell’s development, brings star power to DC and could attract other talent. Kind of a no-brainer if it’s in the cards. Edited January 12 by CapsSkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, LetThePointsSoar said: I want NONE parts of 2023 Brady. 2020 Brady was great, but Father Time is finally winning that battle and still bats 1.000. Go all in on Sam, draft a mid round backup QB, invest in the OL, TE, LB and Safety positions and get your popcorn ready. While I agree that I don't want Brady either, he is still playing quite well. The team around him has deteriorated and Bryon Leftwich as a playcaller makes Scott Turner look like Bill Walsh. But he still put up #s and got his team into the playoffs(albeit in a weak division). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 21 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: At this point, Brady’s cap hit next year is likely to be around $15-20M. Not that expensive, the GOAT, still playing well, could be great for Howell’s development, brings star power to DC and could attract other talent. Kind of a no-brainer if it’s in the cards. If the team is sold by free agency maybe, if Snyder is still here as the owner, there is more chance of Mickey Mouse coming to Washington than Tom Brady. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, markmills67 said: If the team is sold by free agency maybe, if Snyder is still here as the owner, there is more chance of Mickey Mouse coming to Washington than Tom Brady. Yup — all depends on ownership situation. But not what’s necessarily public… could be that nothing has broken in the press but the deal is far enough along. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, CapsSkins said: At this point, Brady’s cap hit next year is likely to be around $15-20M. Not that expensive, the GOAT, still playing well, could be great for Howell’s development, brings star power to DC and could attract other talent. Kind of a no-brainer if it’s in the cards. With this OL he’d get his leg broken. Edited January 13 by allannis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, allannis said: With this OL he’d get his leg broken. The O Line is guaranteed to be revamped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Treat SamHo like Jalen Hurts. Get Brian Johnson, the QB coach from the Eagles to be our OC. Build the Oline and invest high at TE and roll into the 23 season. In 24, we will have plenty of cap space to go hog wild in FA to get over the top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 35 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Treat SamHo like Jalen Hurts. Get Brian Johnson, the QB coach from the Eagles to be our OC. Build the Oline and invest high at TE and roll into the 23 season. In 24, we will have plenty of cap space to go hog wild in FA to get over the top. And hopefully a new owner, FO and coaching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, CapsSkins said: The O Line is guaranteed to be revamped If you spend all your money on a QB you will have no money for a good OL or Payne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, DWinzit said: And hopefully a new owner, FO and coaching! I'm fine with RonMart and the ownership goes without saying. With the right OC, I like Ron running the team and our FO has done a pretty good job in the draft and with lower tier FAs, as well as keeping some of our own guys like Allen and TMC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simmsy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 59 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Hopefully, we'll be able to reuse this Monday night. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, allannis said: If you spend all your money on a QB you will have no money for a good OL or Payne How is $15-20 million "all your money"? You are aware of how big the cap is, right? Edited January 13 by mistertim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pray4surf Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, CapsSkins said: The O Line is guaranteed to be revamped We hope but I don't trust RR and his people to evaluate anything at this point. Let's not forget these are the same people who pushed for Russell Wilson but ultimately settled for Wentz giving up draft capital and $$$ for a player most knew was damaged goods. I'm all in on SamHow. Sign a vet to help mentor him, re-sign Payne and focus draft pics on OL, LB, CB and maybe even a K. My hope is that we can find a trade partner to move back and recover our 3rd round pick. None of this matters if our RR and his staff cannot properly evaluate talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 They'll definitely make an attempt to overhaul the OL. The only question is how hamstrung will they be by the ownership situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 just sayin' 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 hours ago, mistertim said: How is $15-20 million "all your money"? You are aware of how big the cap is, right? You won’t get Carr for that money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, allannis said: You won’t get Carr for that money Of course not. My understanding was that the conversation I was quoting was about Brady. On Carr I pretty much agree. I think he's a good QB but I'm not convinced he'd be worth $50+ million per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allannis Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, mistertim said: Of course not. My understanding was that the conversation I was quoting was about Brady. On Carr I pretty much agree. I think he's a good QB but I'm not convinced he'd be worth $50+ million per year. I don’t think we get Brady that cheap either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 15 hours ago, allannis said: I don’t think we get Brady that cheap either You are wrong. Brady has always played on a team friendly contracts. Winning super bowls is more important to him. Brady is going to earn an annual salary of around $15 million in 2022. This salary is fully guaranteed under his current contract with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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