paloosa Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 What I heard is that he is in last part of his deal which is base salary is around $28 mil and that if he doesn't work out this year we can cut him with zero Cap hit. So I believe we are going to draft a QB to sit behind him for a year . So it is a cap friendly deal for us IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Panninho said: i haven't seen anyone who likes this move... Watch that Colin Cowherd video up above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 It could be worse. We could have signed Andy Dalton. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 So two third round picks, with one being next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanarcticstyle Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 All I can say is there are 8 teams right now trying to upgrade their QB position. Is Wentz in the top 10 of what's available right now. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: There is no down side to this. Except you know eating up nearly all of our cap space and giving up at 2 day 2 picks that make up the starters of your team 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Weren't there reports that Wentz is an odd ball and not a great teammate? You just wonder why the Colts don't want him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zim489 said: And all it really does is tells me that I this franchise isnt serious about winning anything of note or simply doesnt understand the league/position/NFL. Its all about selling to a fan base. As much as I like Ron, I can't tell if he's being overruled or complict right now. It could look complict in placating the fan base when really he's jus backed into a corner from kicking the "franchise QB" can down the road (totally his own fault, btw) now they want the same thing for different reasons. It's all bad, though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Panninho Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Watch that Colin Cowherd video up above. Isn't a Cowherd approval basically just further proof of it being a bad trade though? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Panninho said: Isn't a Cowherd approval basically just further proof of it being a bad trade though? Don't be no cloud on a sunny day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I actually like this move. A lot. It's a one year "prove it" deal, and we did not give up any 1st or 2nd round picks. We can still draft a QB at #11 if the one they really like is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: There is no down side to this. Except you know eating up nearly all of our cap space and giving up at 2 day 2 picks that make up the starters of your team 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBigBeard Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Wentz over his career has a 3 to 1 touchdown interception ratio. Averages 230 yards a game. I would take that all day, not a bad get. And we didn't have to trade the farm for him either. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Zim489 said: Except you know eating up nearly all of our cap space and giving up at 2 day 2 picks that make up the starters of your team Our Cap will be fine and a top 12 starting QB for two 3rd round picks is awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 We’re down to five picks for the draft. I’d imagine Collins gets cut and Flowers gets extended to create cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBigBeard Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I say trade down in the draft now and stack up picks. Draft a wr and a lb and best player available. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Oh no! Did we just choose Wentz over McKissic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, lavar1156 said: Weren't there reports that Wentz is an odd ball and not a great teammate? You just wonder why the Colts don't want him. Wentz struggled with accountability in his last three seasons in Philadelphia and it hurt his standing with teammates and coaches. But it was the torn ACL that ended his 2017 season and denied him the Super Bowl run that revealed character defects and affected him in certain corners of the locker room. Sometime before the championship game, Wentz voiced his displeasure with the Eagles’ success to a group of other injured players, sources with direct knowledge of the incident said. One of the players immediately confronted him and the two eventually had to be separated. Wentz certainly had his supporters or those that sympathized with the obstacles he faced in Philly. If he was more successful, others would have likely been willing to overlook some of his personality quirks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Our Cap will be fine and a top 12 starting QB for two 3rd round picks is awesome. Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Wilson, Prescott, Stafford, Carr, Murray, Jackson, Ryan, Watson, Cousins. Which three are you taking out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 What do you all expect for 22 now? Despite the fact we can cut him in 23; we gave this years 3 and next years 3, that could turn into a 2. This was a save my ass move from Ron. So, Ron I expect us to win at least as many games it takes to get a wild card spot. That’s 9 or 10 wins. I’ll give a pass for actually winning the playoff game but expect more in 23. If we don’t the make the playoffs; goodbye Ron. Let someone else find us the QB in 23. If Carson remains the problem he was in Indy and Philly; goodbye Ron. I view this as Ron thinking he found his long term QB. If we make playoffs; he will not be looking for a qb in 23. If we fail and Carson is no different here ; Ron will be fired and someone else will be looking for that qb. Ron has basically staked his entire NFL head coaching career on Carson Wentz. He gets fired; he will not get another head coaching gig. Owners are looking for younger guys as head coaches and not fired retreads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, skins4ever28 said: Lol anyone who wants to justify this is a rose colored glasses wearing homer and I got nothing to say to you. for everyone else, this is a joke and we all know it. Another Fitzpatrick, another mediocre bullsh*t qb. And another year where we have literally no shot of even contending for a playoff run. You think they laugh at us for the name? This is even worse. What a freaking joke. This team just can’t stop shooting itself This is a pure potential play. It's a gamble that he can return to a player that he almost never was. I don't know if it's a joke, but it's going all in while holding a pair of threes. The only chance for a win is if the others fold or the dealer is really kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Our Cap will be fine and a top 12 starting QB for two 3rd round picks is awesome. I think there's a recency bias to this trade. People just remember his meltdown against the Jags and this "locker room cancer". Because Wentz was 9th in QBR last season, 11th in 2019, 12th in 2018, and 1st in 2017. His outlier years were his rookie season (2016) and his last season with Philadelphia in 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Wilson, Prescott, Stafford, Carr, Murray, Jackson, Ryan, Watson, Cousins. Which three are you taking out? Cousins, Watson who may never play again, Jackson who's always injured and he's right there with Ryan, Carr, Dak and Staffy. There are 6 elite level QBs. Wentz is firmly in the second tier talent wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Wilson, Prescott, Stafford, Carr, Murray, Jackson, Ryan, Watson, Cousins. Which three are you taking out? Cousins. All stats no game. Watson is an easy one too since there's a greater than 50/50 chance he doesn't even play. Ryan as the third maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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