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The Official ES (or E...C) 2022 Free Agency Thread Signed G Andrew Norwell, Obada, Trai Turner...Goodbye Scherff, Kyle Allen, Tim Settle


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1 minute ago, ColonialWBSkinsFan said:

Starting to get a little frustrated watching most other teams working to improve themselves while we’re standing around holding our wieners and losing rotation players.  

 

To be fair, this franchise's idea of improving itself is replacing Joe Gibbs with Jim Zorn, calling itself the Commanders and replacing burgundy and gold with ketchup and mustard. 

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2 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Yeah, that makes no ****ing sense. How are you going to criticize Washington for drafting him because it would be too expensive to hang onto him long term right after saying it was a smart signing by the jags?

Guess he means its a waste of a #5 pick in the long run. We got kirked

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3 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Yeah, that makes no ****ing sense. How are you going to criticize Washington for drafting him because it would be too expensive to hang onto him long term right after saying it was a smart signing by the jags?

Because the 3-14 Jaguars are Super Bowl or bust and Brandon Scherff was the missing piece 👌

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Just now, dunfer said:

Guess he means its a waste of a 5 pick in the long run

Whatever he means it does suck that we took a top 5 player and are watching him walk....It's inexcusable. The guy is right, taking a guard in the top 5 is not economically responsible in the NFL if you're not gonna pay them, especially after they've made multiple pro bowls.

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5 minutes ago, dunfer said:

Guess he means its a waste of a #5 pick in the long run. We got kirked

 

2 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

Whatever he means it does suck that we took a top 5 player and are watching him walk....It's inexcusable. The guy is right, taking a guard in the top 5 is not economically responsible in the NFL if you're not gonna pay them, especially after they've made multiple pro bowls.

I guess. I still can’t reconcile how the Jags signing him is a smart move but if we had signed him to the same deal, it would be overpaying.

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10 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Yeah, that makes no ****ing sense. How are you going to criticize Washington for drafting him because it would be too expensive to hang onto him long term right after saying it was a smart signing by the jags?

He’s the only guy in the top of that draft that lasted with his original team for 7 seasons.  Lol.

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Just now, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

 

I guess. I still can’t reconcile how the Jags signing him is a smart move but if we had signed him to the same deal, it would be overpaying.

Both teams are/would-be overpaying, but weve been overpaying with tags. Sucks but wwbbd?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante_Fowler

 

Ironically the jaguars picked 3 the year Scherff was drafted and I bet they wish they had taken him.   

 

Maybe a guard is silly at 5, but even with injuries we won that one.   Even Winston and Marietta at 1 and 2 weren't very exciting to this point. 

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36 minutes ago, ColonialWBSkinsFan said:

Starting to get a little frustrated watching most other teams working to improve themselves while we’re standing around holding our weiners and losing rotation players.  

 

Deshaun, is that you?

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10 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

That's a very good point...if he had stayed at tackle we'd likely be paying to keep him huh?

If he had stayed at tackle, he probably wouldn't be as good a player at his position than he is now at guard. Some people are born to play guard instead of tackle. Our very own Ereck Flowers is one of them. Scherff might not be nearly as bad as Flowers at OT, but I don't think two coaching staffs would pass up on an all-pro OT if they had one sitting on the roster. Not for the sake of Morgan Moses.

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8 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

Yes, and he has stubby arms which are better suited for the phone booth style altercations that a guard encounters.


Right, a contributing reason why he is a very good guard and wasn’t worth wasting the time being an average RT. 

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48 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Yeah, that makes no ****ing sense. How are you going to criticize Washington for drafting him because it would be too expensive to hang onto him long term right after saying it was a smart signing by the jags?

 

I think they're referring to position value.  By taking a guard at #5 overall you end up paying them like a top guard in the league and don't really get the benefit of the rookie deal.  Not sure what the going price for guards was in 2015 though.  

 

A better example is the Giants taking Barkley #2 overall.  Because of where he was drafted he immediately became a top 5 paid RB so even if he played like a top RB the Giants would break even in contract value.  Compare that to Chase Young who plays a premium position.  Young's making roughly a 3rd of what the top edge players make.  So if he plays like a top 5 player you're getting great value years on his contract.

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