Jds0912 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: I have a feeling Samuel is going to feast with Taylor. Whats the deal with our TD machine Dotson. I remember his very first target - Carson sailed it way over his year. Maybe he can thrive on a wet noodle arm since he seems to adjust to the underthrown ball well. I think. I do think DBs in tight coverage are so ripe for PI's on underthrown balls but will Turner shelf all the deep calls because he cant throw that far? They’ll all feast with th. And if he gets hurt they’ll feast with Howell. We’re in a good situation right now. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Jds0912 said: They’ll all feast with th. And if he gets hurt they’ll feast with Howell. We’re in a good situation right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) It'll be one big party. Somehow I fear TMC will be the odd man out. I have yet another theory - when a backup QB comes into the game, they target the guys they know best. Most chemistry with - WR 4-6. Look for Dyami 'YaMe' Brown to have a career game this week if Dotson doesn't render him inactive. Maybe he passed Cam Sims on the depth chart heh. Edited October 18, 2022 by RandyHolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This is what it's like to be a true bottom feeder of a team and as a fanbase: that people create reasons to look forward to watching th under center. It should make you want to cry, instead. 😓 That is not to ignore how the wentz gamble has gone so far, or how Howell might develop. The team is going nowhere meaningful with even a repeat of last seasons heinie performance, the "upsides" of which I don't think is likely to repeat at all. Worse, IF "fortunate" under th and/or a returning, healed wentz, it all may lead us to another year of just enough wins to cost a higher drafting position. I don't hate th, but I do weary of people who can actually be fans of players who neither have sufficient playing ability or "personality" to merit the level of (I'll be kind here) "enthused support" th gets from a handful here. I think even the oft posted attraction to his persona is born of very questionable, and even fantasy, reactions more made up than being a solid take on his actual personality. Signed, the Grinch.🙂 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jumbo said: This is what it's like to be a true bottom feeder of a team and as a fanbase: that people create reasons to look forward to watching th under center. It should make you want to cry, instead. 😓 That is not to ignore how the wentz gamble has gone so far, or how Howell might develop. The team is going nowhere meaningful with even a repeat of last seasons heinie performance, the "upsides" of which I don't think is likely to repeat at all. Worse, IF "fortunate" under th and/or a returning, healed wentz, it all may lead us to another year of just enough wins to cost a higher drafting position. I don't hate th, but I do weary of people who can actually be fans of players who neither have sufficient playing ability or "personality" to merit the level of (I'll be kind here) "enthused support" th gets from a handful here. I think even the oft posted attraction to his persona is born of very questionable, and even fantasy, reactions more made up than being a solid take on his actual personality. Signed, the Grinch.🙂 I’m very confident in Terry, Samuel, and Dotson. I think an offense can succeed with an average qb when you have weapons like that. Th is just average. Howell is probably average right now but could become a franchise qb, who knows. Both are better qbs than Wentz at this point in his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jumbo said: This is what it's like to be a true bottom feeder of a team and as a fanbase: that people create reasons to look forward to watching th under center. It should make you want to cry, instead. 😓 I was just having this conversation with a few friends of mine that were also unfortunate enough to choose this team when they were younger. The #1 sign of an awful team, aside from being owned by Dan Snyder, is the fanbase constantly clamoring for the backup QB. General amnesia when it came to all the bad we’d seen from the backup in the past coupled with very generous descriptions of what positives he offered. I don’t even think some folks realize they are doing it, but the descriptions for why the backup is the better option, are very generous to say the least. To the extent if they were really as good as described, they would be starting somewhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jds0912 said: They’ll all feast with th. And if he gets hurt they’ll feast with Howell. We’re in a good situation right now. Gotta love your optimism. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This idea that Taylor will help open up the playbook when it was an open secret he was forcing plays out the playbook he couldn't execute with his arm makes me officially realize we are not in a better situation then we were 3 years ago...if there was ever a question, this "conversation" settles it, it's not a Year 3 conversation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I see the FO has finally solved the QB issue - They just saigned Jake Fromm!!! It's all over folks! We finally have a franchise QB! Just can;t believe our luck! Sure he was a 5th draft pick in 2020 that is on his 3th team but we are the team to bring that chamionship level play out of him! What a brilliant move!! https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-sign-jake-fromm-to-practice-squad#:~:text=The Washington Commanders have signed,three games with two starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I don't hate Heinicke, but I'm starting grow extremely ****ing tired of the fans that think he's some sort of an answer. The most popular QB in DC for the past 30 years has perpetually been the guy on the bench no matter who the guy on the bench was. It's lazy, unoriginal, obnoxious and exhausting. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: This idea that Taylor will help open up the playbook when it was an open secret he was forcing plays out the playbook he couldn't execute with his arm makes me officially realize we are not in a better situation then we were 3 years ago...if there was ever a question, this "conversation" settles it, it's not a Year 3 conversation. I agree with you about the bolded statement but I am not sure I saw anyone actually say this. Maybe they did. I mean the TH love is radiant right now. His uber fans (bless them for thier optimism) are over the moon with him projected to be the starter. But I am not sure even they are not delusional enough to think the playbook opens up. It gets significantly smaller with him in. It's not that he doesn;' know the plays, he is severaly limited in what he can actually do physically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I don't hate Heinicke, but I'm starting grow extremely ****ing tired of the fans that think he's some sort of an answer. They always hedge the bold proclamations with “I know he’s not a franchise QB, but…” and then go on to explain his play in ways that make him sound like he could be a franchise QB. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Edited October 18, 2022 by HigSkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, goskins10 said: I agree with you about the bolded statement but I am not sure I saw anyone actually say this. Maybe they did. I mean the TH love is radiant right now. His uber fans (bless them for thier optimism) are over the moon with him projected to be the starter. But I am not sure even they are not delusional enough to think the playbook opens up. It gets significantly smaller with him in. It's not that he doesn;' know the plays, he is severaly limited in what he can actually do physically. This came from an Albert Breer tweet, he made the statement but didn’t quote it from anyone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Gotta love your optimism. LOL I’m just going off what I saw last year. He played some solid football when he had a semi healthy skill player group and we won some games. It was also pretty much his rookie year. So if you add a year of experience+ better weapons+ an easier schedule then I think it equals better results. The 49ers went to the super bowl with Jimmy G, who I consider an average qb. I’m not saying we’re gonna have those results but yeah I could see our offense improve a lot and be in playoff contention in December with th or Howell if we stay somewhat healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: They always hedge the bold proclamations with “I know he’s not a franchise QB, but…” and then go on to explain his play in ways that make him sound like he could be a franchise QB. Exactly. He's a great backup. He had every chance to show last year that he could be a franchise guy and couldn't do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: They always hedge the bold proclamations with “I know he’s not a franchise QB, but…” and then go on to explain his play in ways that make him sound like he could be a franchise QB. I explain his play as average. I consider Wentz below average. That’s why I think our offense will be better with th. I’m not promoting th as a franchise qb, I just think Wentz is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I don't hate Heinicke, but I'm starting grow extremely ****ing tired of the fans that think he's some sort of an answer. What took ya so long? 🤣 I like TH. Nice story n whatnot. A starting nfl qb he is not tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Even the most critical people towards TH, have said that at worst, he's a "high-end backup". Uh, no they haven't lol...maybe they said at BEST he is. Worst I've heard/read was he doesn't deserve a spot on any NFL roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Uh, no they haven't lol...maybe they said at BEST he is. Worst I've heard/read was he doesn't deserve a spot on any NFL roster. I'm not including the extremists. If we included every fan opinion on earth, it would literally include every imaginable statement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I'm not including the extremists. If we included every fan opinion on earth, it would literally include every imaginable statement Well you said the "most critical people"...wasn't aware you could get more extreme than that lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, goskins10 said: I agree with you about the bolded statement but I am not sure I saw anyone actually say this. Maybe they did. I mean the TH love is radiant right now. His uber fans (bless them for thier optimism) are over the moon with him projected to be the starter. But I am not sure even they are not delusional enough to think the playbook opens up. It gets significantly smaller with him in. It's not that he doesn;' know the plays, he is severaly limited in what he can actually do physically. First place I saw it was a tweet a couple pages ago in this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jumbo said: <blah blah blah just kidding I agree with all of it just FML> I think the normalization of failure here has set the bar so low that we'd need an excavator to find it. There seems to be a cognitive dissonance of changing to or being the underdog. Like, "This'll turn things around" despite nearly a quarter-century of repeated versions of this. People perverting a false memory of Doug Williams coming in to save the day. We've never, and won't ever, have a Tom Brady. It just won't happen. Tom Brady wasn't a moxie-filled not-so-good-Al the first couple times he came in; he was a backup and then the GOAT instantly. The infatuation of the Sonny/Billy duplication of the guy on the bench is the one I want, is grossly unhealthy when repeated de facto for more than 20 years. As the late Chris Cornell wrote, "The grass is always greener where the dogs are 💩ing." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: This came from an Albert Breer tweet, he made the statement but didn’t quote it from anyone. 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: First place I saw it was a tweet a couple pages ago in this thread... Thanks. I was focusing on someone in here saying it. Thanks for the clarification. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jds0912 said: I’m very confident in Terry, Samuel, and Dotson. I think an offense can succeed with an average qb when you have weapons like that. Th is just average. Howell is probably average right now but could become a franchise qb, who knows. Both are better qbs than Wentz at this point in his career. Despite your recent attempts to equivocate on your formerly lofty impressions of th, you are the definition of a fanboy. Your user page demonstrated that from the get go and that's not against any rule here nor does it preclude you from being able to make solid points on football when your boy is not a central feature. But I prefer you not to quote me and use my post as a vehicle for you to make a vapid fanboy reply, no matter how you try to "soften" it.🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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