Game Day Thread - Washington at The Third Forgotten NY Football Team

[Warhead36]

Sad thing is 60% third down D feels low lolol

[RandyHolt]

7 minutes ago, srtman04 said:

 

Hasletts D were all terrible....can't believe you would even bring this man up in a positive way at all.

Didnt we make the playoffs the year he started bringing the heat after we sucked ass in passive D for the first 8 weeks? IIRC it started by attacking the Rookie Wentz and we went on a run to make the loffs. Yes, with Madieu at safety. We let him attack vs read and get abused.

[zCommander]

12 minutes ago, El Mexican said:

This supposedly stout D just gave up almost 500 yards to the Bills.

 

Something's not right. I sense it's a vax-related issue.

 

Are you saying players who got the vaccine has messed up their bodies from performing at the top level?

[dyst]

12 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Yeah. I know. They're all trash and can only dominate CFL-level teams until they start beating good teams and then they will and everyone here will be all like "I love those guys" and "never doubted" and "we're so lucky to have them" wash, rinse, repeat blah blah blah. 

Well yea, why would anyone praise a bad unit? It only makes sense to praise them if they play well.

[AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy]

WFT is 0-3 against the spread. At least last year I made some coin. 😆

[Burgundy Yoda]

Rivera doesn't say that "what do you do next week" quote if the next team isn't the Falcons. He knows they're going to look better than this week so it's a safe quote. The reality is, they're probably still going to look bad, but not as bad due to the talent difference between the Bills and Falcons. 

 

The coaching staff still doesn't think there's an actual problem with the defense and it's annoying. 

Edited September 26, 2021 by Burgundy Yoda

[Rufus T Firefly]

1 hour ago, skinsmarydu said:

We weren't even trying to tackle.  

Well, that sounds like a strategic mistake....

[PartyPosse]

3 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

The coaching staff still doesn't think there's an actual problem with the defense and it's annoying. 

I doubt that's true.

[Skinsinparadise]

5 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Rivera doesn't say that "what do you do next week" quote if the next team isn't the Falcons. He knows they're going to look better than this week so it's a safe quote. 

 

It's safe in some sense.  But as much as I want to see how they bounce back next week, I also think the season is likely shot if they lose.   We beat the Giants by a point at home.  Giants lost at home to the Falcons today by 3 points.  This isn't a gimmie game.   They should win but it might not be easy.

 

I watched Rivera's Amazon special as for one of the Carolina's seasons, my impression from it is love him or not love Rivera, i think he's a honest dude and genuiely believes in what he says.   I doubt he's thinking for example we will eke by the Falcons and then get smoked the next 6 weeks but I just want to buy myself one week of good will before it goes all to hell. 

Edited September 26, 2021 by Skinsinparadise

[Burgundy Yoda]

Just now, PartyPosse said:

I doubt that's true.

Rivera is quoted saying it's minor things adding up. To me, that is almost brushing it off. The defense is a big problem, it's not minor things adding up. 

[zCommander]

@Cooleyfan1993 yeah I am confused about the whole vax-related issue too. 

[PartyPosse]

1 minute ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Rivera is quoted saying it's minor things adding up. To me, that is almost brushing it off. The defense is a big problem, it's not minor things adding up. 

Just because he's giving cliche-speak to reporters doesn't make it true.

[Burgundy Yoda]

Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

 

It's safe in some sense.  But as much as I want to see how they bounce back next week, I also think the season is likely shot if they lose.   We beat the Giants by a point at home.  Giants lost at home to the Falcons today by 3 points.  This isn't a gimmie game.   They should win but it might not be easy.

 

I watched Rivera's Amazon special as for the season, love him or not love Rivera, i think he's a honest dude and genuiely believes in what he says.   I dount he's thinking for example we will eke by the Falcons and then get smoked the next 6 weeks but I just want to buy myself one week of good will before it goes all to hell. 

I agree with you here. We can't confidently say we are better than any team remaining on our schedule. Right now we are on par with the Giants and Falcons but either one of them could beat us. We shouldn't be favored in any games going forward, I don't want to be negative, I think that's just being realistic though. 

[Skinsinparadise]

3 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

I doubt that's true.

 

Agree, I think if they weren't aware before they are very aware now.  Let's see how they respond...

 

 

 

[Burgundy Yoda]

Just now, PartyPosse said:

Just because he's giving cliche-speak to reporters doesn't make it true.

You can only base an opinion off of what's being said, anything else is speculation. 

[bh32]

This team should be a lot farther along in the rebuild process than what they are putting on the field..Either the talent evaluators are trash or it's coaching..

[Captain James]

I'm having a REALLY hard time believing anything good will come from this season. We don't have a QB, and now it seems we don't even have a flippin defense. The feeling of regression is extremely shocking and exhausting.

 

Solutions to problems never end up being actual solutions with this team.

 

And yet I shall return to them again next week... FML

[PartyPosse]

Just now, Burgundy Yoda said:

You can only base an opinion off of what's being said, anything else is speculation. 

So you honestly think Ron truly believes that the defense isn't a problem right now after watching them get decimated in embarrassing fashion because he didn't come out and explicitly say it?

[Burgundy Yoda]

13 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Sad thing is 60% third down D feels low lolol

It has to be 80% + on 3rd and longs 

[Skinsinparadise]

1 minute ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

I agree with you here. We can't confidently say we are better than any team remaining on our schedule. Right now we are on par with the Giants and Falcons but either one of them could beat us. We shouldn't be favored in any games going forward, I don't want to be negative, I think that's just being realistic though. 

 

OK gotcha.  My point is I am not cynical about Rivera's integrity as for what he says and why.    On that variable specifically to me he's as good as Gibbs.  Both are really straightforward and honest.

 

I genuinely don't know if they bounce back and play better or not.  But I do think the players-coaching staff if they needed a wake up call, are now woken.  I had some doubts they were woken after the Giants game but I got little doubt on that front now. 

[GOATFrerotte]

Opening line against the Falcons is WFT -1. Seems about right. Two really bad teams grinding it out. Should be interesting. Matt Ryan might feast.

[Burgundy Yoda]

Just now, PartyPosse said:

So you honestly think Ron truly believes that the defense isn't a problem right now after watching them get decimated in embarrassing fashion because he didn't come out and explicitly say it?

I dont know what Ron believes behind closed doors and neither do you, but I do know his quote sounds like he's brushing off how bad they've been to me. These aren't "simple mistakes adding up"

[Voice_of_Reason]

12 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

Well, that sounds like a strategic mistake....

[PartyPosse]

5 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

I dont know what Ron believes behind closed doors and neither do you, but I do know his quote sounds like he's brushing off how bad they've been to me. These aren't "simple mistakes adding up"

Ok, but do you honestly, truly believe that Ron and the coaching staff don't think there's a problem on the defensive side of the ball?

Edited September 26, 2021 by PartyPosse

[Burgundy Yoda]

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

OK gotcha.  My point is I am not cynical about Rivera's integrity as for what he says and why.    On that variable specifically to me he's as good as Gibbs.  Both are really straightforward and honest.

 

I genuinely don't know if they bounce back and play better or not.  But I do think the players-coaching staff if they needed a wake up call, are now woken.  I had some doubts they were woken after the Giants game but I got little doubt on that front now. 

I don't question Rivera's honesty at all. I question the schemes we run and his faith in his coordinators. I'm not an expert on schemes by any means but there seems to be issues adjusting on Del Rio's behalf. He has clearly been figured out and I get the feeling he isn't one to adjust a defense accordingly during the season.