KillBill26 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Strong is intriguing, but an immobile qb has the odds stacked against him in today's NFL. Brady is a unicorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: Well, the Falcons got clowned by the Saints, so we are drafting #11. Thanks Matty Ice. I dont think we end up drafting at 11. We are going to try get above Carolina would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jds0912 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, DiscoBob said: What about 3x 1st for Haskins... think we could pry him away from the Steelers? Haskins 😂 what an embarrassment. I was so mad when we drafted him I tried to be a Vikings fan. That lasted about 5 hours. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 If I understand the rules while our SOS hurts all our tie breakers in the first, everything flips, alternates from round to round so we'd have the 8th pick in the 2nd round. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 NFL Network had us picking 9th but I'm guessing they're not using accurate information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) @clskinsfan Cool write ups. I watched most of those players except for Purdy and Glass. I am a bit gun shy still giving definitive takes on them, yet. But I've spent so much time watching QBs that i am way behind on other spots, usually I am much deeper in the evaluation process at this point. If I had to guess right now comps and rank them. My ranking will almost for sure change post senior bowl. 1. Matt Corral. Comp: a mix of Zach Wilson and Derek Carr. More undersized than them but faster 2. (tie) Sam Howell: Baker Mayfield at his best 2. (tie) Pickett: a mix of Davis Mills, Tua and Daniel Jones at their best 3. Malik Willis: Trey Lance with more upside 4. Carson Strong: Joe Flacco 5. Desmond Ridder: Jalen Hurts 6. Zappe: Andy Dalton 7. McKee: physically looks like Herbert plays more like Mike Glennon Edited January 10, 2022 by Skinsinparadise 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 God those comps are awful. If that's the case I wouldn't draft any of them, except maybe Willis and hope you shoot the moon. There is no difference to me between someone who's mediocre and someone who straight up sucks. I want a guy I can build a championship contender around for a decade. Anything less and they're all just as good as Heinicke to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glongest Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Went into the day thinking we would pick between 7 and 11. Ended up with the worst possible scenario. Sounds about right for this franchises luck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: If I understand the rules while our SOS hurts all our tie breakers in the first, everything flips, alternates from round to round so we'd have the 8th pick in the 2nd round. Nope. We’d ‘move’ up a slot in the 2nd round. We’d pick 10th in the 2nd, 9th on the 3rd, 8th in the fourth and 11th in the fifth and so on 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: God those comps are awful. If that's the case I wouldn't draft any of them, except maybe Willis and hope you shoot the moon. There is no difference to me between someone who's mediocre and someone who straight up sucks. I want a guy I can build a championship contender around for a decade. Anything less and they're all just as good as Heinicke to me. Thing is our comps dont really matter. It is fun to look at tape and see something that reminds you of another player. But it is up to Ron and his guys to see their own comps. I dont know if there is a true superstar in this QB class. Maybe Pickett. And Willis might have the most upside. If you have a great OL Strong can shred you. But I dont think I am reaching by saying all of those guys, and add Corral, are far more talented than Heinike IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Extremely early mock (until 11, projecting Carolina trades for Watson (sending 2022 1st, 2023 1st, 2024 1st and 2023 2nd) 1). Jax-A. Hutch 2). Det-K. Thibs 3). Hou-Hamilton 4). NYJ-Stingley 5). NYG-Neal 6). Hou (from Car)-Linderbaum 7). NYG-Dean 8. Atl-Williams (Ridley can't be relied upon) 9). Den-Pickett 10). NYJ-Ojabo 11). Was-Corall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, clskinsfan said: Willis is going to have to sit for while. Maybe even multiple years. Ron doesnt have time for that. I think we end up trading up in the draft for either Pickett or Corral. But that is just my gut. I wouldnt hate picking Strong or Howell at 9 either. We have to come away with a first round QB in this draft. No QBs sits multiple years, the value is the rookie contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: God those comps are awful. If that's the case I wouldn't draft any of them, except maybe Willis and hope you shoot the moon. There is no difference to me between someone who's mediocre and someone who straight up sucks. I want a guy I can build a championship contender around for a decade. Anything less and they're all just as good as Heinicke to me. My comps of course are just opinion. I am purely talking about their style. That's why I said in some of those cases those players I compared them to playing at their best. Edited January 10, 2022 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Consigliere said: No QBs sits multiple years, the value is the rookie contract. Exactly. And today's NFL is very rookie friendly. The only guys that sit are guys that are behind already quality established QBs and the teams are winning. If the 9ers were like 3-8 they'd have started Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 MATT CORRAL QB Ole Miss Matt Corral can be the franchise quarterback of the Washington Football Team Matt Corral is the QB1 for a weak draft class at the position in my book. However, that makes him valuable at No. 10 for Washington. Taylor Heinicke has been fun to watch but his ceiling is very well defined and not all that high. As such, the dual-threat ability and accuracy of Corral raises what the Football Team can accomplish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Consigliere said: No QBs sits multiple years, the value is the rookie contract. Jordan Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Jordan Love. Yeah, but he’s behind Aaron Rodgers and was picked in the 20s. Lance was picked 3rd. He can’t sit next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Jordan Love. 6 minutes ago, mhd24 said: Yeah, but he’s behind Aaron Rodgers and was picked in the 20s. Lance was picked 3rd. He can’t sit next year Okay, and how about Aaron Rodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, The Rook said: Here is a strange thought - I honestly believe if Trey Lance was coming out this year, there is a boat-load of ES posters who would gladly trade 3 first round picks because "You have to go all-in for the QB". The Rook I’d trade multiple firsts for Lance, niners wouldn’t. Don’t understand the shock he didn’t play, they hoped he’d pull it off but it was hoped not a plan, that’s why they didn’t trade Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Just now, DWinzit said: Okay, and how about Aaron Rodgers Again, Rodgers was sitting behind a future HOF-er who was still playing really good football. Not anywhere near the same as Taylor freaking Heinicke. Also that was 2005. 17 years ago. The league is set up differently nowadays with rookie contracts. Edited January 10, 2022 by Warhead36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMeisterGeneral Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) Slightly underwhelming position to be drafting This is the off-season we have to get a QB, whether it’s draft, trade, whatever. If they try going into a 4th off season next year looking for the answer it’s just not good enough No QB, no chance of competing. Hell even the teams with good QB’s don’t always compete Edited January 10, 2022 by BrentMeisterGeneral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 hours ago, DiscoBob said: So we're a pile of crap? 👍 We are the commoders now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: 11 MATT CORRAL QB Ole Miss Matt Corral can be the franchise quarterback of the Washington Football Team Matt Corral is the QB1 for a weak draft class at the position in my book. However, that makes him valuable at No. 10 for Washington. Taylor Heinicke has been fun to watch but his ceiling is very well defined and not all that high. As such, the dual-threat ability and accuracy of Corral raises what the Football Team can accomplish. Corral is really the only QB on my radar (at least for round 1.) But I honestly don't see first QB off the board lasting to pick #11. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Saw a quick three round mock with us picking at 11. Corrall and Pickett are gone. We take Charles Cross OT. Then Howell in the 2nd and Damone Clark in the third. I can’t remember. Was Cosmi considered a possible guard because of his arm length? If so, and we could slide him inside, that would be a very nasty line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 This one has Pickett and Corral go before our pick. And we take Desmond Ridder. This coming from the dude who pushed for Ridder in the 2nd round when it looked he would come out in last year's draft -- but I'd flip out if they took him at 11. Of the top 6 QBs, Ridder has to do the most work to win me over. Having said that if he kills it in the Senior Bowl I might warm up to it. Right now, it makes me cringe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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