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23 minutes ago, China said:

William Robert Norwood III of Greer, SC didn't believe the judge, now he knows better

 

William Robert Norwood III apparently didn’t believe that judge Kevin McDonald would order him back to jail for not following the judge’s order to not have contact with his estranged wife. Now he knows better. Judge McDonald ordered Norwood to be held without bond pending trial after Norwood continually contacted his estranged wife in an attempt to convince her not to testify against him and his part in the insurrection. 

 

McDonald stated that some of those contacts by Norwood presented a clear danger to his estranged wife.

 

Norwood didn’t deny contacting his wife and knows it was a violation of his bond conditions, his appointed attorney, Lora Blanchard, said in the hearing.

 

Why do all these insurrectionists always make excuses for their criminal behavior? Are they that afraid of going to prison for their crime? Or is it that because they’re white they believe they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? 

 

Norwood faces seven federal charges. He was arrested by FBI agents after a family member shared screenshots of messages in which he bragged about assaulting police officers and storming the Capitol. Agents found a Capitol Police riot shield and helmet in Norwood’s storage unit, which he said he picked up from a pile outside the Capitol.

 

The government also said Norwood led a group into the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and filmed rioters storming the Capitol from her office balcony.

 

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It's because Trump has convinced them that white people are privileged humans and not part of subhumans (except white women who are definitely part of a subhuman group unless they bow down to their lord and master) and they don't have to live under the rules for subhumans.

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3 hours ago, China said:

William Robert Norwood III apparently didn’t believe that judge Kevin McDonald would order him back to jail for not following the judge’s order to not have contact with his estranged wife.

 

 

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RNC sues Salesforce to block Jan. 6 committee data dump

 

The Republican National Committee is suing its own email vendor, Salesforce, in a last-ditch effort to stop it from turning over extensive internal data to the Jan. 6 select committee, Axios has learned.

 

Driving the news: The RNC is seeking an emergency injunction to block the software giant from complying with a subpoena from the panel investigating the Capitol riot by a 10am ET Wednesday deadline.

 

Why it matters: Absent an injunction, the committee would gain access to extensive data on RNC and Trump campaign fundraising practices.

 

It's seeking that information as part of an investigation into the use of false claims about 2020 election fraud to raise money for Trump-aligned political efforts.

 

The subpoenaed records include extensive information on who at the RNC sent its fundraising emails, who received them and how effective they were at raising money in the wake of the 2020 election.

 

Details: The subpoena seeks RNC and Trump campaign fundraising data gleaned from its use of Salesforce email marketing software.

 

The RNC is also amending a lawsuit filed last week against the committee to include Salesforce as a defendant.

 

Axios reviewed copies of both the amended complaint and the injunction motion.

 

Between the lines: The RNC says Salesforce made initial assurances it would not turn over that data while its lawsuit against the committee was pending.

 

But one day after Axios reported on the lawsuit, Salesforce told the RNC it was legally obligated to produce the requested records and would do so regardless of the litigation, the amended complaint says.

 

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But their emails. 
 

But having said that?  I really don't think this committee should be looking at how the RNC targets suckers for money. Sounds like fishing for juicy political dirt as opposed to investigating an attempted coup. 

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8 minutes ago, Larry said:

But their emails. 
 

But having said that?  I really don't think this committee should be looking at how the RNC targets suckers for money. Sounds like fishing for juicy political dirt as opposed to investigating an attempted coup. 

 

If there's foreign money solicited etc, that's against the law. Hopefully it will help the new voting rights bills get passed. 

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23 minutes ago, Larry said:

But their emails. 
 

But having said that?  I really don't think this committee should be looking at how the RNC targets suckers for money. Sounds like fishing for juicy political dirt as opposed to investigating an attempted coup. 


Part of the potential criminal charges include the fraud of declaring the election stolen even while having knowledge of the untruth of that assertion and fundraising based on that lie. That’s criminal fraud, conspiracy, etc.  No wonder they don’t want to turn over that information. 

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1 hour ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

If there's foreign money solicited etc, that's against the law. Hopefully it will help the new voting rights bills get passed. 

 

49 minutes ago, Dan T. said:


Part of the potential criminal charges include the fraud of declaring the election stolen even while having knowledge of the untruth of that assertion and fundraising based on that lie. That’s criminal fraud, conspiracy, etc.  No wonder they don’t want to turn over that information. 

You both nailed it. I hope the lawsuit gets shot down quickly. 

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47 minutes ago, Dan T. said:


Part of the potential criminal charges include the fraud of declaring the election stolen even while having knowledge of the untruth of that assertion and fundraising based on that lie. That’s criminal fraud, conspiracy, etc.  No wonder they don’t want to turn over that information. 


Is it fraudulent political fundraising?  Yes. 
 

Should a Congressional Committee be investigating it?  No. 

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12 minutes ago, Larry said:


Is it fraudulent political fundraising?  Yes. 
 

Should a Congressional Committee be investigating it?  No. 

 

It affects legislation to stop it, that's why the Jan 6 committee has a wide open license to go hunting. The Republicans have been trying to tighten up that license ever since the committee was established. They know what they were doing from 2016 onward that halfway culminated in the Jan 6 insurrection.

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1 minute ago, Dan T. said:

Why not?


For the same reason Congressional committees don't ( or shouldn't) investigate Republicans for claiming they'll reduce the deficit. Or save Social Security. 
 

Same reason they don't investigate false TV ads. Or tax evasion. 
 

In particular, political speech really needs to be free. It should be reserved for things like conspiring to install a dictator who lost his election. Things like that. 

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2 minutes ago, Larry said:


For the same reason Congressional committees don't ( or shouldn't) investigate Republicans for claiming they'll reduce the deficit. Or save Social Security. 
 

Same reason they don't investigate false TV ads. Or tax evasion. 
 

In particular, political speech really needs to be free. It should be reserved for things like conspiring to install a dictator who lost his election. Things like that. 

 

They should investigate anyone and any party that tries to overthrow the government. In this particular situation, it's the Republicans and the Republican Party who are complicit.

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1 minute ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

They should investigate anyone and any party that tries to overthrow the government. In this particular situation, it's the Republicans and the Republican Party who are complicit.


So investigate them. 
 

For trying to overthrow the government. 
 

Heck, investigate them for voter suppression. 
 

But not for using untrue slogans in their political fundraising. 

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5 minutes ago, Larry said:


It should be reserved for things like conspiring to install a dictator who lost his election. Things like that. 


Right. That’s exactly what they are investigating. Those rallies, those lawyers, those buses weren’t free. Follow the money. 

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‘You’re Being Used’: Mo Brooks Mocked For Releasing Ad Touting His Jan 6 Speech As Trump Trows Him Under The Bus

 

GOP Congressman Mo Brooks is being mocked for releasing a new campaign ad touting his Jan 6, 2021, in which he urged supporters of then-President Donald Trump to start “taking names and kicking ass” in order to keep Trump in power.

 

During that speech, Brooks repeated Trump’s lies that the 2020 election was “stolen” by Democrats, and urged the crowd to “start taking down names and kicking ass!” Hours later, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. capitol in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s victory.

 

Brooks was slapped with a civil lawsuit and could face criminal charges for inciting the riot.

 

The Alabama Republican is running for an open U.S. Senate seat in Alabama and is now touting his infamous speech after fresh criticisms from Trump.

 

Trump endorsed Brooks in the Alabama Senate race, but expressed regret over Brooks’ performance so far, telling the Washington Examiner in a recent interview:

 

“Mo Brooks is disappointing. … It’s a very tight race between the three of them right now, and I’m not particularly happy,” Trump said before citing comments Brooks made at a rally Trump attended last year, in which Brooks told supporters to look forward, not backward at the 2020 election, which Trump took to be Brooks’ dismissal of the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.

 

“I’m disappointed that [Brooks] gave an inarticulate answer, and I’ll have to find out what he means. If it meant what he sounded like, I would have no problem changing [my endorsement] because when you endorse somebody, you endorse somebody based on principle. If he changed that principle, I would have no problem doing that.”

 

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Judge finds January 6 defendant guilty of trespassing on Capitol grounds

 

A federal judge on Tuesday found Couy Griffin, a founder of Cowboys for Trump and the second January 6 defendant to go on trial as part of the Justice Department's massive prosecution, guilty of trespassing on US Capitol grounds while Vice President Mike Pence was there.

 

Griffin, a conspiracy theorist who also serves as a county commissioner in New Mexico, was acquitted of a second misdemeanor charge of disorderly and disruptive conduct. Griffin argued that he led others in prayer at the Capitol that day.


Judge Trevor McFadden issued the ruling after a sometimes-contentious bench trial that began Monday and ended midday Tuesday. Griffin faces a potential fine, probation or jail time up to one year after being found guilty of entering and remaining in a restricted area.


After the verdict, Griffin told reporters outside the courthouse that he didn't want to go to jail but continued to peddle the false conspiracy theory that January 6 was a set-up by the US government.

 

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On 3/16/2022 at 1:15 PM, Dan T. said:


Right. That’s exactly what they are investigating. Those rallies, those lawyers, those buses weren’t free. Follow the money. 

I would add - if people were willing to testify and comply, seizing emails may have been completely unnecessary. But they won’t even be honest about who they talked to, when. So. Let’s see the records. 

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