Koolblue13 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: @THE HAMMER'IN HOG Wow Buddy! I didn't create the term, I'm sorry if it bothers you. Call him what you want.. a minority, a latino/hispanic american, just a dude even. Still doesn't change the fact we haven't hired one of "these" men in 88 years and that was the whole point here. To recognize the importance of it for the Skins and the man himself. 🙉 I'll just 🙊 on this.. The one team that was forced to sign minority players now has a minority head coach. I think that's ****ing awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, THE HAMMER'IN HOG said: So a man who is a shade darker than an albino is now a man of "color??” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, THE HAMMER'IN HOG said: So a man who is a shade darker than an albino is now a man of "color??" Always someone trying to interject race into something!!! Just look at all the potential pro bowl CB's who are passed over because they are white!! What a shame!! smh Slow down. Read the thread slowly instead of giving in to your basest impulsive overreations and discomfort. See if you find a glimmer of truth or perspective in what someone thinks who isn't you or like you. You're doing yourself a disservice. This could be an illuminating thread without posts like this. Derisively calling a Puerto Rican person "a shade darker than albino" to dismiss others' experiences is irrational behavior and a destructive attitude, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I’ll get me popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 A lot of good intentions in this thread. I think the fact that a Puerto Rican/Mexican played linebacker and is now a coach is groundbreaking. Not sure how many Hispanics have played in he NFL. I count about 5 or 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 @kfrankie thank you for engaging. To my surprise there have been more than We May have imagined since the pre nfl days... A few Hall of Famers too. There have been a bunch.. The more we know... So there have been many players in the NFL, but so few Executives with full Power to make Decisions that that is what makes this RR hire so important for minorities or people of color. just off the top right now playing: kiko alonso LB blake martinez LB anthony villanueva OT andrew sendejo S zane gonzalez k rigoberto Sánchez P some more bigger names: Tony Gonzalez HOF Anthony Muñoz HOF Ted Hendricks HOF Jim Plunkett Tom Fears HOF Jack Del Rio Ron Rivera Manny Fernandez Tony Romo Jeff García https://m.ranker.com/list/best-hispanic-football-players/famous-hispanics?ref=collections_btm&l=335506&collectionId=2360&li_source=LI&li_medium=mobile-bottom-collection https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hispanic_professional_American_football_players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovingtonCommander Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Lone Star Dietz doesn’t count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Dietz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 @AldersonRedskinFan If he was Native American Indian then yes they are POC’s I believe. I guess there is/was a contingent of people who believe he was an Indian imposter. Read further at your link. IDK, hard to rehash 100+ year old history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: As far as him being Puerto Rican, that's fairly significant also, because of the way they've been treated the last few years. Hurricane Maria hit us, before slamming right through them. No state would ever be treated like PR was and it was because it's prodominently PoC. It's still destroyed. It might be a sore subject because I'm right here, but imagine if those affected by Katrina was allowed to lay in ruins 2 years later. Yeah, PR only got $1 billion in relief aid from FEMA... Not to mention, New Orleans is over 60% minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 There are only two colors I am concerned about. Burgundy and Gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxprodigyxx Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I feel about this thread the same way RR did when he dodged the question he was asked about his heritage during the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 @zskins @xxprodigyxx Engage, embrace, deflect, ignore, pretend, dismiss, choose what you will. Cest la vie... This isn’t required participation. Thank you for your contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: @zskins @xxprodigyxx Engage, embrace, deflect, ignore, pretend, dismiss, choose what you will. Cest la vie... This isn’t required participation. Thank you for your contributions. He has been a coach for a very long time and broke that barrier a long time ago for other minorites coaches to follow. Why is it more important now? I am also people of color, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 @zskins Read the original post man. Read the article. It’s the first time in Redskins history, 88 years, that a POC will have full control of the Organization. This isn’t about him being a coach. 😿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxprodigyxx Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: @zskins @xxprodigyxx Engage, embrace, deflect, ignore, pretend, dismiss, choose what you will. Cest la vie... This isn’t required participation. Thank you for your contributions. A very childish approach. You made this thread, I chose to participate in it as I see fit. You are also not required to engage me. I don't think this is how you should treat your fellow poster of color. Thank you for your contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 It's good to see POC showing their skills and getting rewarded as a matter of facts. There is discrimination (racism), and positive discrimination (trying to get a mirror image of our society) to counter the previous one. Both of them are a breach of the right to equality, one use racism in job selection, the other one skin color, ethnicity. Both of them usually ignore merit and skills. Wouldn't our societies be better by clearly renouncing quotas and the word discrimination ? I believe in an "ideal" society there would be no discrimination whatsoever, and that our references should be the concepts of positive equality and additional merit with equal skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxprodigyxx Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: @zskins @xxprodigyxx Engage, embrace, deflect, ignore, pretend, dismiss, choose what you will. Cest la vie... This isn’t required participation. Thank you for your contributions. Sorry...I must do this as well. Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge. Choose what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaga Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: The one team that was forced to sign minority players now has a minority head coach. I think that's ****ing awesome. Weren't the Skins the first team to have a black QB win a Superbowl too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePackisback Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, slaga said: Weren't the Skins the first team to have a black QB win a Superbowl too? Ron Rivera is going to make you guys a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 6 hours ago, ddub52 said: Yeah, PR only got $1 billion in relief aid from FEMA... Not to mention, New Orleans is over 60% minority. Not sure what you're getting at. 25 minutes ago, slaga said: Weren't the Skins the first team to have a black QB win a Superbowl too? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-9- Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 only the 2nd POC Head Coach in the NFC-East ... ... if not counting Lone Star Dietz: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I don't understand why so many people need to go into a thread, just to say "this might be important to a minority of people, but I don't care". That's why this is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I'll tell ya, first and foremost I was rooting for RR for HC because of the quality of his coaching and intensity of his leadership. If his heritage provokes conversations, inspires youth and leads to wider opportunity for marginalized people how is this not a HUGE bonus? Even it it doesn't apply to me specifically I'm not sure why I am supposed to deny those positive feelings to others or **** all over their joy. Now, I'm not being dismissive of the conversation here, quite the contrary, I am open to sharing in the feelings of others that see this as an act of empowerment. Some short-sighted people feel that if they aren't getting a "cut" of the action or attention then no one should be. That's horse**** and says something about the speaker and not the subject. I've always felt that one of the core values of sports (or military service) is that it bonds people together for a common cause that transcends their differences without erasing them. OUR team got better, wider, deeper, more, and if some get to feel it on a more direct and visceral level than I am able to, then hell, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne_Millner Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I have nothing to add here, except that you have Jim Plunkett listed as a HOFer and he’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I've found the term "people of color" to be confusing. Depending upon the issue it seems to include some people but exclude them in other situations. If you are white Hispanic are you a person of color? If so, there Hispanics that are more European than "white" Americans. As to the OP, Rivera has been a successful HC for a long time so I'm not sure there is anything to celebrate. Hopefully just success with the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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