PeterMP Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Why are you nitpicking like I'm clueless when I jus posted an article about the neatherlands food supply methods? The current means of getting food to people despite their economic situation isnt working, especially in severe poverty situations. Implementation of food programs by UN and US arent stopping deaths by starvation world over, theres no need for a correction in my understanding here. I just wanted to be clear, and I even pointed out I wasn't sure what you meant by implementation. Your post seemed like it could be interpreted as we do not generate enough food based on our currently technology and and way our current technology is implemented to feed the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Chobani Yogurt announces it will pay off all of Rhode Island Warwick School District's lunch debt https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/9/1856583/-Chobani-Yogurt-announces-it-will-pay-off-all-of-Rhode-Island-district-s-school-lunch-debt?detail=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1OeJAMzqvUTnUzNr0zOOb1HkZRjhAJ4dmUwL3el7F_V4E6Bpfgtw6chZo Well how will those lil ****ers ever learn some of those great parasite capitalism uber alles lessons now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Every now and then someone does something to make me feel like not everyone sucks. Thank you chobani 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Great. Now the price of my yogurt will go up to offset some poor kids lunch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koala Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 This is a type of marketing technique -- it doesnt really cost that much, and it can go along way. It also doesnt really solve the problem, which is that the policy must be changed, and whoever wrote that policy or was involved in writing that policy should be immediately fired, and publicly shamed like they tried to shame those kids, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Koala said: This is a type of marketing technique -- it doesnt really cost that much, and it can go along way. It also doesnt really solve the problem, which is that the policy must be changed, and whoever wrote that policy or was involved in writing that policy should be immediately fired, and publicly shamed like they tried to shame those kids, IMO. If you read the piece, they did change the policy. Also if you read the piece, once it became news they collected $14K from parents before Chobani stepped in. A lot of people that had money to pay for the lunch hadn't been paying and when there was going to be an effect stepped up and paid, which was the objective of the policy. People not only had enough money to be paying for their kids' lunches, but actually to pay their back bill did so quickly. The policy worked. 4 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Great. Now the price of my yogurt will go up to offset some poor kids lunch. Doubtful, unless you believe that the Greek yougart market is not really a free market, or demand for Chobani yogurt is going to go up in an equal offsetting manner because of this. Edited May 11, 2019 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Next headline... Rhode Island school district announces Chobani has exclusive rights to yogurt sales in district.... I can tell you...as soon as I saw the article, I remembered my daughters lunch account was getting low, and quickly added to it... The rule was the perfect way to get parents off their ass and pay the stupid bill...as Peter pointed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darrell Green Fan Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 (edited) Are we really debating delinquent accounts should be cut off? If you don't pay your bill you will get no more credit, that's how the world works and there is nothing unfair about that. 19 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: I remember that story and the school was so wrong. Then they lied about the reason for the termination, the letter completely contradict the reason they gave later after the outrage. What a gutless bunch. Edited May 18, 2019 by Darrell Green Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterMP Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 That seems extreme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 They should just go with universal free lunch. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Regarding some of the months ago comments, I sort of assumed everyone just ate the slice of rectangle cardboard pizza, small fry basket, and half pint of milk. I think that was my lunch every day of school for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) They could lose their KIDS? Over LUNCH money? Yeah, no governmental overreach here, kids. Just goose step on by. Nothing to see. ~Bang Edited July 20, 2019 by Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 As someone without kids....why should my tax dollars go to someone else's children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Kosher Ham said: As someone without kids....why should my tax dollars go to someone else's children? There's an argument to be made about contributing to the good of the community I suppose. My local area is pretty wealthy but the schools are overcrowded, and underfunded as a result, because only a certain amount of the local tax revenue funds them, too many priorities, etc. There was some special referendum on the ballot a year or two ago about earmarking money for additional school funds, I believe it would have been in the form of a tax on dining out in the area. It got voted down overwhelmingly for what I'd assume is the above line of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Legalize marijuana. All tax dollars go to education. Easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Why can't they just change the law to keep feeding the kids but send a ticket (similar to a traffic ticket) to the parents? They could include an informational pamphlet on applying for free lunch and if they qualify, the ticket would be waived. 7 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: As someone without kids....why should my tax dollars go to someone else's children? Because we are all affected disproportionately from government spending. And somewhere along the way the country figured out that feeding poor hungry kids is something the richest country in the world can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Npr’s Ted talk radio hour just released one on simple solutions. I don’t know how to link the specific one from my phone, it’s the latest entry here: https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510298/ted-radio-hour in a segment of it around the middle they covered how the Obama admin tackled some inner city school performance issues by granting them money to feed every child breakfast. They saw 20% gains in scores. 20%. Let me repeat that a third time. 20% improvement in scores in an inner city school just because they gave them breakfast. Lots more there. This is a topic that needs more academics sharing research and less partisan politicians muddying the waters and less general public opining and more general public listening. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) @tshile Bravo. ~Bravo. Edited July 20, 2019 by Bang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yet we can't feed poor hungry veterans, take care of our elderly people, etc. @bearrock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: Yet we can't feed poor hungry veterans, take care of our elderly people, etc. @bearrock? We should. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: As someone without kids....why should my tax dollars go to someone else's children? Because poverty and extreme need breeds criminal and other negative behavior and a growing population is important for economic growth. If you don't, you'll end up in a country with a high crime rate, paying for incarceration of the people that you wouldn't support as children so you'll end up spending even more money, with a stagnant economy. 4 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: Yet we can't feed poor hungry veterans, take care of our elderly people, etc. @bearrock? Ok, we try to do those things too, and you can argue how well we are doing taking care of children. (and the same logic applied to not giving money to other people's children apply to those groups too (for post-Vietnam veterans) and probably even more so.) Edited July 21, 2019 by PeterMP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, PeterMP said: If you don't, you'll end up in a country with a high crime rate, paying for incarceration of the people that you wouldn't support as children so you'll end up spending even more money, with a stagnant economy. When I take the 20% figure from the Ted radio hour, and think about what that means for children starting in kindergarten going through high school graduation and performing 20% better than the last 2 decades of classes of children that went through those school districts... and extrapolate that out to what it means for the economy and society... through their adult hood... socioeconomic opportunity is tied to so many things... crime (which counts double because if crime goes down not only are we talking about less criminals to deal with, we’re talking about less victims), being a net contributor tax wise, drug use, the prison system (and these people are the most likely to repeat offenders), the health of the neighborhoods (and what that means for future children in those neighborhoods), the police-to-Black-people relationship and the overall issue of racism. And self worth. How much better does a person in that system feel about themselves? About how society feels about them? And then how we feel about them and treat them? What does that do to economic activity? How does it change their relationships with their neighbors when they’re adults? and we’re just talking about feeding them breakfast i listened to that podcast last night. My mind has been blown since. I realize I listed a lot of optimism in the potential but I don’t think it’s unfounded and I think the potential is so massive even just hitting it 50% would be incredible. All over cereal, eggs, bacon, pancakes.... it just blows my mind. Edited July 21, 2019 by tshile 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: As someone without kids....why should my tax dollars go to someone else's children? Good point. All schools should be privately funded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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