JSSkinz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 So the way DJ talks it's seems like he doesn't hold himself accountable for any of the issues on defense, maybe there's a good reason for that, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, bonesbr549 said: wow totally forgot the game was on. The gods took mercy on me today. I didn't forget, but I only scanned the game today. Too many Christmas and family related things were happening today. Sounds like a usual game in the Gruden era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Norman isn't perfect but I do think the dude cares. The secondary isn't that hot right now and he's arguably the best corner. Dunbar got off to a hot start but then faded some later in the season pre injury. My point is if the secondary needs help in its current form, it will need even more help when they let Norman go which I am assuming is inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 The play at the end of the game on 3rd and 3 was not what I thought was needed. We're obviously going for a field goal with the way we're running the clock, so all we really need is 19 yards to get to the 30 in 2 minutes. Jay has me shaking my head too often these days. The D simply folded once Gabbert showed up. They need to hang their heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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repo_4 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: So the way DJ talks it's seems like he doesn't hold himself accountable for any of the issues on defense, maybe there's a good reason for that, not sure. I don't think he's played all that well the last half of the season, but in his defense he has been all but saying that coaches are putting them in position to fail, not succeed. Can't say "it's all on me" if your coach is telling you to zig when you know you should be zagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, Birdlives said: If Todd Bowles gets fired, you go get that man and let him run the defense. Would love that. No more of these failed diamond in the rough DC’s. They don’t work. McCarthy HC, Bowles DC, draft Haskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 norman might want to hurry up and shower and get dressed if he wants to be on that flight home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I just watched Gruden’s presser and it all made sense to me. He said they were getting 4 to 5 yards a rush on first down. As you all know, I tracked EVERY First down run in the game, up until the 4th quarter we were averaging JUST over 2 yards a carry. Jay is just dyslexic. He doesn’t recognize the difference between 2 and 4. He just flips them in his head. (I’m dyslexic, so I get it) Either that or he failed Kindergarten. Either that or he’s completely game unaware. You pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: McCarthy HC, Bowles DC, draft Haskins Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Renegade7 said: McCarthy HC, Bowles DC, draft Haskins Haskins I think might be out of reach with the pick we got now, If people think Jay struggles with clock management and doesn't run the ball enough -- don't think they'd be loving McCarthy. I like Bowles as DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Norman isn't perfect but I do think the dude cares. The secondary isn't that hot right now and he's arguably the best corner. Dunbar got off to a hot start but then faded some later in the season pre injury. My point is if the secondary needs help in its current form, it will need even more help when they let Norman go which I am assuming is inevitable People called corner issues before season started after losing a starter and our nickel guy. Holding on this long was a pleasant surprise. Im not in the "get rid of him" boat either, a restrcutre convo should be had, especially in light of what a young on with Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: McCarthy HC, Bowles DC, draft Haskins No thank you on a McCarthy. Just now, Skinsinparadise said: Haskins I think might be out of reach with the pick we got now, If people think Jay struggles with clock management and doesn't run the ball enough -- don't think they'd be loving McCarthy. I like Bowles as DC. I’d take Bowles as HC honestly. Tough sell, but I’d take it. DC is no brained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Why do people want Mike McCarthy? What about him makes anyone think that he's a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I just watched Gruden’s presser and it all made sense to me. He said they were getting 4 to 5 yards a rush on first down. As you all know, I tracked EVERY First down run in the game, up until the 4th quarter we were averaging JUST over 2 yards a carry. Jay is just dyslexic. He doesn’t recognize the difference between 2 and 4. He just flips them in his head. (I’m dyslexic, so I get it) Either that or he failed Kindergarten. Either that or he’s completely game unaware. You pick. D. Jay is full of **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Haskins I think might be out of reach with the pick we got now, If people think Jay struggles with clock management and doesn't run the ball enough -- don't think they'd be loving McCarthy. I like Bowles as DC. Look at the draft board and who's picking QB around us. People have Jags getting Locke, that makes us next team that needs one and make sense to do it (not just drafted or large contract already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: McCarthy HC, Bowles DC, draft Haskins I would literally take a Steelers or pats water boy over McCarthy. He’s hot garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, JSSkinz said: Why do people want Mike McCarthy? What about him makes anyone think that he's a good coach. He got the most out of Rodgers while Rodgwr was still listening to him. He's certainly a better play caller then Jay, they problem is their front office is too cheap to get him a solid team or even defense Just now, Birdlives said: I would literally take a Steelers or pats water boy over McCarthy. He’s hot garbage. Disagree, but alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JSSkinz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 We were 8/14 on 3rd down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repo_4 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, JSSkinz said: Why do people want Mike McCarthy? What about him makes anyone think that he's a good coach. Because he won a Suberbowl. Duh! Lol. Just kidding. I'd take him over Jay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs828791 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 This game is 100% on the defense. They were hardly on the field in the second quarter, they got no turnovers and let Gabbert beat them. I dont know why Gruden hired Barry then Manusky from his staff that has cost him so much grief and embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: He got the most out of Rodgers while Rodgwr was still listening to him. He's certainly a better play caller then Jay, they problem is their front office is too cheap to get him a solid team or even defense We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, I see a huge failure who squandered the career of a hall of famer, it would be so Redskins to bring him in, I would rather have Jay. Just my opinion based on how I've watched Green Bay underachieve for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: He got the most out of Rodgers while Rodgwr was still listening to him. He's certainly a better play caller then Jay, they problem is their front office is too cheap to get him a solid team or even defense Disagree, but alright. I would argue Rodgers got the most out of him while he rode Rodgers coat tails. Is the GB front office cheap and ruining the best years of Rodgers career like Indy did Peyton? Yes, but McCarthy isn’t some amazing head coach, he’s had his issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: No thank you on a McCarthy. Someone who has won a super bowl I'm no gonna scratch off. Think we're in a point where we need to be careful about hiring a Zorn or someone without a track record considering how on the brink the stadium is with people not showing up. I don't believe he as bad as some make him out to be, and any coordinator we get if hes really good we should be prepared to lose them like McVay, another reason I'm not interested in just getting one for Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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