visionary Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 But they aren't just targeting vote by mail.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Republicans seem to be trying to suppress their own voters. The amount of folks voting by mail will go down when the pandemic is over. Older folks will still be using the mail and they seem more likely to vote Republican in Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 We'll soon have red states requiring 5 IDs and a notarized statement just to get an application to vote. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Actually that’s sort of a running joke around here at the county level. you get these people to vote and turn these counties pretty liberal, then they move into the red counties to get away from it all, and then do the same thing... ”so you moved out here to get away from the high taxes and dense development ... and you’re voting for people that want to raise taxes and over develop the area... thanks...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, tshile said: Actually that’s sort of a running joke around here at the county level. you get these people to vote and turn these counties pretty liberal, then they move into the red counties to get away from it all, and then do the same thing... ”so you moved out here to get away from the high taxes and dense development ... and you’re voting for people that want to raise taxes and over develop the area... thanks...” OT. Feel free to skip. Decades ago, when I was hogh school, and for a decade or more after, my family lived on the only gravel road in Fairfax County, the second richest county in the US. (At least, at the time.) And, like once a year, we would get a letter in our mailbox from somebody who had just built/bought a house on the road, who had discovered the shocking news that the county has set aside money to pave the road, at no expense to the residents. Money had already been budgeted. All that was needed was for a majority of the owners to ask the county to pave the road, by returning the petition. He was always rejected. The people living on that road didn't want it paved. One of the reason I'd heard was that the road was a shortcut from Fairfax to Bull Run Marina. And they wanted all the traffic to take other roads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Opinion: Two stats show why Republicans are so fixated on suppressing the vote Why are Republicans so willing to incur the wrath of civil rights groups, to risk alienating college-educated voters and to alienate big business by engaging in flagrant voter suppression? Two statistics provide clarity. The first comes from TargetSmart, a Democratic data firm that has compiled information on more than 98 percent of those who cast ballots last year from individual voter files. The firm finds: “Non-college educated whites dropped from 53.8% of the electorate in 2016 to 49.2% in 2020.” Moreover, “Nationally, total turnout increased by 12% relative to 2016, turnout among [Asian American and Pacific Islander] voters surged by 43% and Latino turnout increased by almost a third of all votes cast.” (While the disgraced former president may have done better among Hispanics in some states than he did in 2016, overall, he still lost 65 percent of these voters.) TargetSmart’s chief executive, Tom Bonier, told me this means that non-college-educated Whites increased turnout over 2016, but just not as fast as other groups. In other words, the GOP is “running out” of non-college-educated Whites. Republicans’ “solution” is to keep these voters at a fever pitch, sell them on fear and resentment, and to try to maximize their share of the electorate by making it harder for everyone else to vote — especially non-Whites and low-income Americans. It has not occurred to Republicans, as the Atlantic’s David A. Graham has explained, that “they may well discover that they have actually disenfranchised many of their own supporters, even as their push to pass restrictive rules energizes their opponents.” Indeed, post-election analysis suggests that the GOP’s presidential nominee would have lost even in a lower turnout election and that, as a Stanford University report has found, “no-excuse absentee voting mobilized relatively few voters and had at most a muted partisan effect despite the historic pandemic.” In other words, making it more difficult to vote absentee and discouraging turnout overall may well backfire. The second statistic behind the Republicans’ collective panic attack has to do with their solid core of supporters: White evangelical Christians. As I pointed out last month, Gallup finds that the percentage of those attending any religious institution has dropped below 50 percent, the first time in 80 years of its surveys. Churches are losing younger Americans at a remarkable rate. If Republicans cannot find enough non-college-educated Whites and, worse for them, cannot count on White evangelicals (more than 80 percent of whom voted for the MAGA party) to keep pace with the growth of nonreligious voters, their nativist party — driven by fears of an existential threat to White Christianity — will no longer be viable at the national level. Click on the link for the full analysis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Stacey Abrams Schools Sen. John Kennedy On Why She Objects To Georgia’s New Voting Law Be careful what you ask for, senator. Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy asked Stacey Abrams during a hearing Tuesday to give him a list of the provisions in Georgia’s new voting law she thought restricted voting rights. She obliged with a blistering and quite detailed rending of those objections. Watch below: Click on the link for the full story 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 hours ago, China said: Stacey Abrams Schools Sen. John Kennedy On Why She Objects To Georgia’s New Voting Law Be careful what you ask for, senator. Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy asked Stacey Abrams during a hearing Tuesday to give him a list of the provisions in Georgia’s new voting law she thought restricted voting rights. She obliged with a blistering and quite detailed rending of those objections. Watch below: Click on the link for the full story No John, obviously you don’t (get the idea). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Ok, Maxine Waters handed a Repub his ass, then Val Demings, now Stacey Abrams, who's going to be next? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Isn't he the same Kenedy listed as one of the 12 people who accounted for 70% of the anti-vaccination material on the large anti-vaccination facebook groups? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) “What else?” ”what else?” ”is that it?” ”what else” ”ok I get the idea” lol i love those moments when someone is trying to be clever (and/or bullying) and it blows up in their face. good for her. Good for being prepared. Good for being concise. All around impressive. 40 minutes ago, LD0506 said: Ok, Maxine Waters handed a Repub his ass, then Val Demings, now Stacey Abrams, who's going to be next? It turns out that when you reduce yourself to picking bs culture war pushing carnival barkers, you wind up with people who can’t handle themselves in a debate with intelligent people Edited April 22, 2021 by tshile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 10:11 PM, visionary said: But they aren't just targeting vote by mail.... The vote by mail thing is a good point. Historically, Republicans gained a huge vote by mail advantage over Democrats. We don't know if the COVID voting phenomenon is a one-off or if it's the start of a trend. Personally, I'll probably vote in person next go around. In any case, the mission should be to maximize voter participation not minimize it. What's wrong with making it easier? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, gbear said: Isn't he the same Kenedy listed as one of the 12 people who accounted for 70% of the anti-vaccination material on the large anti-vaccination facebook groups? That was, oddly, RFK Jr. Yes. Son of that RFK and nephew of JFK. I know because I have some exposure to the rightside echochamber via a church connection (more accurately a disconnection post COVID) and he spoke at that church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Burgold said: In any case, the mission should be to maximize voter participation not minimize it. What's wrong with making it easier? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Burgold said: In any case, the mission should be to maximize voter participation not minimize it. What's wrong with making it easier? Democrats win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Georgia: We'll make it illegal to give people water Florida: Well we'll make it legal to run people over Arizona: Hold my beer.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Arizona election bill to purge some from permanent early voter list dies he Arizona Senate on Thursday voted down an election bill that critics deride as an attempt at voter suppression because of infighting among Republicans. But the measure could come back at a later date. The measure would purge inconsistent voters from the popular permanent early voting list. It’s one of the most contentious election bills moving in Arizona as Republicans in key states look to remake election procedures in the wake of President Donald Trump’s loss last year. Republican Sen. Kelly Townsend of Mesa joined all Democrats in voting not to send the bill to Gov. Doug Ducey. She said she supported it but wants to see the Legislature be far more aggressive in shoring up election integrity. Repeated reviews have found no problems with the election results in Arizona or elsewhere, but many Trump supporters still believe his loss was the result of fraudulent activities. The Senate is preparing to begin a hand recount of more than 2 million ballots cast in Maricopa County as part of a sprawling review of the vote count in one the nation’s fourth-largest county, which includes metro Phoenix. Townsend said she wants to make sure the Legislature doesn’t adjourn before the results of the Senate’s audit, in case the Republican majority decides more bills are needed. Democrats, election administrators and voting rights advocates have derided the audit as unnecessary. The audit is being led by a firm owned by a man who has shared unfounded conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 So Arizona adds to our lexicon- Fraudit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 So there was fraud, it was republicans who committed fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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