Hersh Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Popeman38 said: This is a terrible contract. GMBM made a couple moves to help get the Caps a Cup, but some of the contracts he gives out are extremely questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Hersh said: This is a terrible contract. GMBM made a couple moves to help get the Caps a Cup, but some of the contracts he gives out are extremely questionable Signing Hagelin for his age 30-34 seasons for $2.75M is NOT a bad contract. He is a fantastic PKer, drives possession, elevates the transition game, and can play on the 2nd line in a pinch and solidify the wing on the 3rd line. 2 hours ago, GoDeep81 said: Is the salary cap going up or something? Just not seeing how/why they can afford a 4th line penalty killer at 2.75 mil.. But, it's done now. Should of just kept Beagle, he was the best faceoff guy on the team. (and would of probably took 2.75x4) First of all, Beags got PAID by Vancouver so there was zero chance he takes a 35% discount to stay with the Caps. Second, Hags will be playing on the 3rd line most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 He’s an anchor for point production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I like Hags...a lot. Glad we’re keeping him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, TryTheBeal! said: I like Hags...a lot. Glad we’re keeping him around. He’s got flow for days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: Signing Hagelin for his age 30-34 seasons for $2.75M is NOT a bad contract. He is a fantastic PKer, drives possession, elevates the transition game, and can play on the 2nd line in a pinch and solidify the wing on the 3rd line. First of all, Beags got PAID by Vancouver so there was zero chance he takes a 35% discount to stay with the Caps. Second, Hags will be playing on the 3rd line most likely. You are way overvaluing Hagelin. He’s a good PKer but he’s a bottom 6 player that relies on speed and sucked in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c slag Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hersh said: You are way overvaluing Hagelin. He’s a good PKer but he’s a bottom 6 player that relies on speed and sucked in the playoffs He did have a bad playoffs, but hopefully after a full training camp and regular season here, he steps up,because he's going to be a guy they will need production from to improve bottom 6 scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I was disappointed by Hags in the playoffs. After Kuzy he may have been the second most disappointing player. With that said, I still think he can add value to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 He does add value, but at the expense of whom not getting resigned? Caps have some tough decisions coming up and I'd prefer they sign youth than 30 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, c slag said: He did have a bad playoffs, but hopefully after a full training camp and regular season here, he steps up,because he's going to be a guy they will need production from to improve bottom 6 scoring Hes not going to bring production. He’s not going to step up. He’s a decent PKer who is positionally sound defensively but he never has and never will drive any offense. It’s not who he is. He’s a 3rd liner at best and if he makes it into the second line then it’s bad news for scoring goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Caps still have Vrana and Bura as RFA and Connelly as an UFA. (plus a few other younger players) Caps need to retain as many of the quality young players as possible. They already have enough older players and they have some contracts that are really going to hurt in a couple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Springfield said: Hes not going to bring production. He’s not going to step up. He’s a decent PKer who is positionally sound defensively but he never has and never will drive any offense. It’s not who he is. He’s a 3rd liner at best and if he makes it into the second line then it’s bad news for scoring goals. In 22 games in LA, Hags had 1 G & 4 A. In 20 games with the Caps, he had 3 G & 8 A. That extrapolates to 12 G & 32 A overt a full season, while being on the 1st PK pairing. That is a solid 3rd line winger. Brett Connolly is going to get PAID in a few weeks. 22 G & 24 A for a 3rd liner is tremendous, and until last season was a pipe dream for him. 15 & 8 and 15 & 12 in his first 2 seasons in DC. Hags is a 0.44 points/game player over his career. Connolly is a 0.36 points/game player. Yes, Connolly is 3 years younger and has a higher upside on offense. But he is going to be looking for $4M/year over a 4 or 5 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Burakovsky is as good as gone. No way he's back next year. Dude is an enigma. Can't keep waiting on him to make the leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Vrana and Djoos are the primary RFAs that have to be resigned. Burakovsky should be tendered and should realize that getting a small raise from the Caps is a win. I don't think there will be a rash of teams wanting to sign him to an offer sheet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: Vrana and Djoos are the primary RFAs that have to be resigned. Burakovsky should be tendered and should realize that getting a small raise from the Caps is a win. I don't think there will be a rash of teams wanting to sign him to an offer sheet... Vrana, yes....but I want to see Djoos pushed (by way of camp competition) for that 6D spot. I think Siegenthaler is the better player and would be the guy I'd want paired w/ Gudas. Djoos could be the healthy-scratch guy this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The Caps need to start generating and promoting the next wave of young talent. Not sure how much exists offensively, but that is how they’ve stayed competitive for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Hersh said: The Caps need to start generating and promoting the next wave of young talent. Not sure how much exists offensively, but that is how they’ve stayed competitive for so long. There are some interesting guys in the pipeline on defense, but no one is really moving the needle in the minors/juniors that I personally forsee being someone who could slide into the top-6 at some point. Most of the forwards that the caps have in the pipeline are depth guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Watching the Raptors NBA Title parade. Toronto was almost as lit as D.C. last year. Almost. Damn I want another parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Watching the Raptors NBA Title parade. Toronto was almost as lit as D.C. last year. Almost. Damn I want another parade. I don't know man....we didn't have a shooting occur during our parade. That's pretty lit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Hersh said: The Caps need to start generating and promoting the next wave of young talent. Not sure how much exists offensively, but that is how they’ve stayed competitive for so long. 21 hours ago, RonArtest15 said: There are some interesting guys in the pipeline on defense, but no one is really moving the needle in the minors/juniors that I personally forsee being someone who could slide into the top-6 at some point. Most of the forwards that the caps have in the pipeline are depth guys. Yes and yes! Which is why I'd of rather seen them spend money elsewhere and promote depth from within.. They've got to have some young(ish) forwards who can play 200' and PK, for much less than nearly 3mil a year? What they have against Jaskin, I don't know.. (And salary cap going DOWN apparently, this upcoming season) Vrana is the next important signing, imo.. Then they better start looking for an Oshie replacement.. His health can/has become an issue. I hope GMBM can keep up, but I fear a LA Kings like season(s) are on the horizon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 52 minutes ago, GoDeep81 said: Yes and yes! Which is why I'd of rather seen them spend money elsewhere and promote depth from within.. They've got to have some young(ish) forwards who can play 200' and PK, for much less than nearly 3mil a year? What they have against Jaskin, I don't know.. (And salary cap going DOWN apparently, this upcoming season) Vrana is the next important signing, imo.. Then they better start looking for an Oshie replacement.. His health can/has become an issue. I hope GMBM can keep up, but I fear a LA Kings like season(s) are on the horizon.. Oshie is on an 8 year deal lol. We'd have to trade him but that's not happening anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Sticksboi05 said: Oshie is on an 8 year deal lol. We'd have to trade him but that's not happening anytime soon. Expose him to the expansion draft and hope Seattle wants him as their first captain. Honestly, with all the head injuries he's had, I don't see how he's going to see the ice for the remainder of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Yea, Love Oshie, but I can't see 7 years left in him.. Head injuries are so scary, his dad suffering from brain related illness.. Plus he got a cup, gold and plenty of $$.. Even if he resists I imagine his family will push for an early retirement. 1 more concussion and the talk will get real.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Oshie's still a quality player. I wouldn't just get rid of him unless you're signalling a rebuild which I don't think we'll do as long as 8 is in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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