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Bozo the kKklown

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16 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said:


Do you understand the difference between judging people for their actual behavior and the choices they make versus judging someone on their skin color and ethnicity?

In this country we have a group of people, who resent being repudiated and rejected for racism and hypocrisy and bigotry. They don't self-reflect and take responsibility, they deflect and project their failings onto others. They are victim-blamers and shamers of women dealing with sexual assault while having the biggest persecution complex of all, for the flimsiest of reasons. 

That is all BEHAVIOR that is being rejected and scorned. And when we do, they call us uppity. How dare those "elites" have standards and desires for a progressive world. How dare they resist behaviors and choices that degrade the integrity and character of our society.

Conservatives love false equivalencies and want to be the victim. 

 

Its disgusting that the comparison was even made.

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TradeTheBeal!

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11 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Conservatives love false equivalencies and want to be the victim. 

 

Its disgusting that the comparison was even made.

 

Spiff drank the kool-aid a ways back.  He’s working his way through it.

 

Be patient and firm with him.  He’s a good guy.

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Bozo the kKklown

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6 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

Spiff drank the kool-aid a ways back.  He’s working his way through it.

 

Be patient and firm with him.  He’s a good guy.

He needs to be told the comparison was disgusting and that being an told to stop being an asshole isnt the same as being denied the right to vote.

 

I am happy that he is trying to change his worldview, but we shouldn't sit back and allow people to say stupid stuff.

 

And I am not attacking him as a person, I am attacking that thinking.

 

edit: I say all of that, but do also think a lot of liberals are pieces of crap too for the way they treat the poor and under educated.

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4 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

Oh so the President says crazy stuff all day every day and is portrayed as pivoting if he doesn't drool for 15 minutes, but you call the President out on that nonsense and you're the one who gets called insane!?

As a parent of a child with autism and learning disability, calling somebody a "Stupid Forest Gump" really ticks me off. Even if it is somebody I really dislike such as the President.

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51 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

Oh so the President says crazy stuff all day every day and is portrayed as pivoting if he doesn't drool for 15 minutes, but you call the President out on that nonsense and you're the one who gets called insane!?

 

It's because he used naughty language.  You can evidently lie constantly about things big and small, you can cheat on your wife with pornstar prostitutes, you can sexually assault minors, etc., but use of naughty words is beyond the pale.  

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10 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

http://screenprism.com/insights/article/can-forrest-gump-be-viewed-as-conservative-propaganda

 

 

 

This is hilarious, but I'm not buying it.  The one argument is that Jenny was a hippie and therefore died of AIDS.  Okay, but it's not like Jenny was protrayed as the bad guy, she was a protaganist.  As was Bubba (black man, clearly a Democrat), Lt. Dan, soldier turned anti-war activist (possibly the thing the draped-in-the-flag Fox News crowd hates the most among white people), and Forrest himself, a guy that befriends people regardless of their skin color (and is an early Apple investor). 

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I'll also note that I love how conservatives try to divide up the world into thing that are theirs and things that are owned by liberals.  So far liberals are coming up the big winners.  We get the NFL, 99% of movies, all of TV except for Fox News and Roseanne, Amazon, and on and on.

 

They get Fox News, WalMart, guns and trucks.  :)

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12 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I'll also note that I love how conservatives try to divide up the world into thing that are theirs and things that are owned by liberals.  So far liberals are coming up the big winners.  We get the NFL, 99% of movies, all of TV except for Fox News and Roseanne, Amazon, and on and on.

 

They get Fox News, WalMart, guns and trucks.  :)

That just proves that liberals are a bunch of rich elitest snob who control the majority of media. :ols:

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31 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

This is hilarious, but I'm not buying it.  The one argument is that Jenny was a hippie and therefore died of AIDS.  Okay, but it's not like Jenny was protrayed as the bad guy, she was a protaganist.  As was Bubba (black man, clearly a Democrat), Lt. Dan, soldier turned anti-war activist (possibly the thing the draped-in-the-flag Fox News crowd hates the most among white people), and Forrest himself, a guy that befriends people regardless of their skin color (and is an early Apple investor). 

 

Its a really ****ty movie.

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3 hours ago, Fresh8686 said:


Do you understand the difference between judging people for their actual behavior and the choices they make versus judging someone on their skin color and ethnicity?

In this country we have a group of people, who resent being repudiated and rejected for racism and hypocrisy and bigotry. They don't self-reflect and take responsibility, they deflect and project their failings onto others. They are victim-blamers and shamers of women dealing with sexual assault while having the biggest persecution complex of all, for the flimsiest of reasons. 

That is all BEHAVIOR that is being rejected and scorned. And when we do, they call us uppity. How dare those "elites" have standards and desires for a progressive world. How dare they resist behaviors and choices that degrade the integrity and character of our society.

 

Sure, there's a difference.  But people are raised certain ways, and while that's not deeply rooted as ethnicity, it's still hard to overcome certain beliefs and thoughts that have been with people for their entire lives. 

 

You want to change peoples behaviors?  You want to get the people that aren't progressive to come around to your world point of view?  Then don't talk down to them and berate them for their viewpoint.  How do you fix a problem with a co-worker or a family member? Do you berate and scorn them?  Or do you try to understand where they're coming from, get them talking and then show them that your way is better and why, without being a jerk about it?  It's a watered down sales approach, you get them to understand they have a problem and then provide a solution.  You can't do it in a day, it's going to take time.  Calling someone a racist uneducated hick won't make someone come around to accept your views, it's just going to piss them off and alienate them further. 

 

Claiming to be progressive and having desires for a progressive world and then berating others who don't accept your viewpoints isn't "progressive".  

 

 

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I think there is a portion of the "deplorables" segment of society that is waging a good faith battle to change. Maybe realize some of the things they were brought up to believe and continued to believe are wrong and they shouldn't be mocked or insulted or bashed because  40 years of learned behavior isn't changing over night. There is a difference between them and the folks who wear the ass-backwards stuff as a badge of honor and see nothing wrong with it.  Those folks right now seem to be the vocal ones. 

 

I remember when Adrian Peterson hitting his son until he bled with a "switch" was being discussed and there was such a loud backlash from folks who said "my parents did that too, aint nothing wrong with it"  and then you had Chris Carter on ESPN, saying his parents did it, but sometimes just because that is how you were raised, doesn't make it right.  The pain in his voice, trying to express the realization that as good as our parents may have been overall, didn't make them infallible to criticism for certain things. 

 

I imagine for some folks, they might feel shame about the views they were taught on a lot of the "culture wars" stuff.   

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Just now, PleaseBlitz said:

Do people perceive Trump as "gettin' stuff done"?  What stuff?  

 

Dems have zero levers of power, who expects them to do anything?

 

The people that voted for them

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19 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Do people perceive Trump as "gettin' stuff done"?  What stuff?  

 

 

Those are separate questions.  Yes, lots of people perceive Trump as "gettin stuff done".  

 

They probably cant answer the second one with anything that would be accepted as a positive from anyone other than themselves.  

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It's not hard for Trump to argue about the economy.  All the positive progress made on Obama's way out, was said to have been fake, all Trump did was now claim the job numbers and gdp growth are real.  That was the beauty of the timing of him coming into office.  He got to take the credit for things the ball had already been rolling for.  Don't forget, Trump said the "real unemployment rate" was near 40% during his campaign.  

 

The strategy of lying until it becomes truth is working. 


There's also the issue of gerrymandering which largely hasn't changed.  Not to mention how much people claim to hate congress/the senate, but always seem ok with their own rep.  It's those "other evil folks"  The GOP has made it seem like every local election is Nancy Pelosi vs "random local GOP candiate" 

 

There are a ton of reasons why this mid-term is going to be a lot tougher to make a big impact than people think. Unfortunately.

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There is quite a bit of stuff getting done, both good and bad(depending on your view)

 

Regulations are most certainly.and of course the tax breaks/hikes

quite a few moves overseas as well

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