88Comrade2000 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Will Bernie Sanders Split the Democratic Party in 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: Will Bernie Sanders Split the Democratic Party in 2020? I doubt it. Like a lot of us he really wants Trump out of office. I don't see him spliting the party. He endorsed Hillary and he'll most likely campaign for the Dem nominee again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 This is a time to be critical and serious not to disparage and attack. Hopefully, the best candidate rises and wins. We need better and we ought to try to embrace the bigger tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I think Bernie will do what he did last time: give a tepid sour-grapes endorsement of the eventual winner and enough of his supporters will not vote for the Dem nominee that it will matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 The Democrats’ choice problem: Which candidate can beat Trump in 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: The Democrats’ choice problem: Which candidate can beat Trump in 2020? They thought Hillary easily could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, twa said: They thought Hillary easily could. So did every Republican contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, twa said: They thought Hillary easily could. And crazy people voted in one of their own. Wow...just realizing that there are that many crazy people running around makes me think I need more ammo. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Burgold said: So did every Republican contender. Isn't that whataboutism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, twa said: Isn't that whataboutism? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, twa said: Isn't that whataboutism? Takes one to know one. (You called yourself out...) Nicely played, @Burgold. Jeez. I just went back to kindergarten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Following the discussion from yesterday on the Dems chances: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/2020-election-democrats-donald-trump-presidential-candidates-a8832526.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 LOL, what? Only heard of him yesterday and haven't really seen anything great so far. He seems to like tweeting and replying to people though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hickenlooper has seen more pornos with his mother than Pence has seen with Mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Quote Mr. Biden and his top advisers are considering nodding to the rising next generation in Democratic politics — and elevating an heir — by announcing a running mate early, well before the nomination is sealed. Also under discussion is a possible pledge to serve only one term and framing Mr. Biden’s 2020 campaign as a one-time rescue mission for a beleaguered country, according to multiple party officials. Let's stop with all these dumb gimmicks. Just try to win the primary first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Let's stop with all these dumb gimmicks. Just try to win the primary first. Picking veep early is a gimmick. Telling people, he would serve one term; would acknowledge his age and possibly ease doubts among younger voters. He can say, I maybe the best person to beat Trump; in thus extraordinary situation. Let's beat Trump and I'll serve only a term and then a younger person can run and win in 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I would rather Biden run on why he would be the best president than run on I'm the best shot to beat Trump. And if you're too old to run for a second term, why isn't he too old to run for the first term? Isn't that why we have a vice president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, bearrock said: I would rather Biden run on why he would be the best president than run on I'm the best shot to beat Trump. And if you're too old to run for a second term, why isn't he too old to run for the first term? Isn't that why we have a vice president? Agree with this. Biden looks fine from a health perspective. My issue with his age isn't that he's physically too old, it's that he's ideologically too old. But if he wins, I see no reason to term-limit him, and if he's fine after the first 3 years (assuming he wins), why piss away the huge incumbency advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Pete is right. “I’m with Her” was a remarkably dumb campaign slogan, as was “Stronger Together”. It’s stupid that these things matter but you work with what you have: a country with a ridiculous thigh percentage of disengaged and low information voters. We don’t take our democracy seriously, so dumb things end up making a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I thought Stronger Together was fine, it just assumed that less people were hateful racists than actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 <br> https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/1108766315513290754 Going to be interesting to see which candidates actually goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: Agree with this. Biden looks fine from a health perspective. My issue with his age isn't that he's physically too old, it's that he's ideologically too old. But if he wins, I see no reason to term-limit him, and if he's fine after the first 3 years (assuming he wins), why piss away the huge incumbency advantage? Isn't he basically in the same age range as Trump? And Trump is a fat turd. Biden at least looks to be in decent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Isn't he basically in the same age range as Trump? And Trump is a fat turd. Biden at least looks to be in decent shape. Trump is 72, Biden is 76. Biden does look to be in okay shape, but by the time he finished a first term, he'd be 82. 86 if he completed a second term. Given how bad the Presidency ages a person (when they actually give a **** about their awesome responsibility), he'd functionally be like 115.* Again, physical age isn't a deal-breaker for me, but it's a consideration. *This is not a serious calculation. I'm just making numbers up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Isn't he basically in the same age range as Trump? And Trump is a fat turd. Biden at least looks to be in decent shape. Biden looks really old from the side. I used to think he looked decent but I only ever say a front profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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