PleaseBlitz Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 This + Biden is the Dem field. Schultz hasn’t declared, but he’s more of a Republican independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The Alabama babe is making noises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Would this be too simple? States move to "open primaries" and then people like me (registered Rep, but anti-Trump, left/right based on issue) could vote for a more moderate and well rounded candidate who then opposes Trump, and I will vote for them. More complicated - we need a computer algorithm to draw district lines. Note : the alternative is not that I would vote for Trump.....that will NEVER happen. But what would happen is that I end up going third party or "write-in". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, twa said: The Alabama babe is making noises My understanding is the recent buzz about Abrams is she’s gonna be Biden’s early VP pick or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: My understanding is the recent buzz about Abrams is she’s gonna be Biden’s early VP pick or something. Isn't Abrams from Georgia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said: My understanding is the recent buzz about Abrams is she’s gonna be Biden’s early VP pick or something. And if he does that. I really hope his speech is NOT focused around her being female. I love me some Biden, and will be very surprised if I didn't end up voting for him. But one of the worst things he could do to turn me off.....is putting a woman in a position just because she is a woman. I don't want to be pacified.....I want to see a VP that truly compliments and challenges him. A ying & yang. She may very well be that, and I hope if he goes that direction he does her service in focusing on her merits, and not her gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, visionary said: Isn't Abrams from Georgia? Yes. I dunno who the “Alabama babe” would be. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It would be a mistake for Biden to select a running mate now. To me it’s a sign of weakness. I do agree that he’d do well if he said he wouldn’t run for a second term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, visionary said: Isn't Abrams from Georgia? you say potato I say potatoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: And if he does that. I really hope his speech is NOT focused around her being female. I love me some Biden, and will be very surprised if I didn't end up voting for him. But one of the worst things he could do to turn me off.....is putting a woman in a position just because she is a woman. I don't want to be pacified.....I want to see a VP that truly compliments and challenges him. A ying & yang. She may very well be that, and I hope if he goes that direction he does her service in focusing on her merits, and not her gender. Agree. Seems like a dumb stunt based on tokenism. And im a big Stacey Abrams fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Agree. Seems like a dumb stunt based on tokenism. And im a big Stacey Abrams fan. I don't know much about her. At this point its like College Ball....as much as I try, the roster is just too large for me to really get into it. I need to wait and see how things shake out once they are entering the major leagues before I start placing my bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, Hersh said: Alright, so let's get this train back on the tracks. Any new Dems entering the race in the next few weeks besides Biden or have we reached the point of this is the field? I was going to say Stacey Abrams. She appears to be Bidens not so secret weapon now unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: Would this be too simple? States move to "open primaries" and then people like me (registered Rep, but anti-Trump, left/right based on issue) could vote for a more moderate and well rounded candidate who then opposes Trump, and I will vote for them. More complicated - we need a computer algorithm to draw district lines. Note : the alternative is not that I would vote for Trump.....that will NEVER happen. But what would happen is that I end up going third party or "write-in". Not sure I understand this. If you're a registered democrat or republican I dont think you should be allowed to vote in the oppositions primary. Independents absolutely. Dems n Reps tho could lead to absolute sabotage of the opposition in the primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, clietas said: Not sure I understand this. If you're a registered democrat or republican I dont think you should be allowed to vote in the oppositions primary. Independents absolutely. Dems n Reps tho could lead to absolute sabotage of the opposition in the primaries. I'd be happy even with them allowing Indep/NPA. Most states, they don't get to participate in primaries at all. But honestly.....is the false negative really a threat? Do you really think tons of Rep would be willing to give up their vote for their Rep. Primary choice to vote instead for a Dem? If so, couldn't they just register as the other party and do the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: I'd be happy even with them allowing Indep/NPA. Most states, they don't get to participate in primaries at all. But honestly.....is the false negative really a threat? Do you really think tons of Rep would be willing to give up their vote for their Rep. Primary choice to vote instead for a Dem? If so, couldn't they just register as the other party and do the same thing? I think it would certainly encourage it. You're right nothing is stoping someone from switching parties to do so. I just wouldn't want to make it easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, clietas said: I think it would certainly encourage it. You're right nothing is stoping someone from switching parties to do so. I just wouldn't want to make it easier. Out of curiosity....what's your stance on requiring IDs to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: Would this be too simple? States move to "open primaries" and then people like me (registered Rep, but anti-Trump, left/right based on issue) could vote for a more moderate and well rounded candidate who then opposes Trump, and I will vote for them. More complicated - we need a computer algorithm to draw district lines. Note : the alternative is not that I would vote for Trump.....that will NEVER happen. But what would happen is that I end up going third party or "write-in". Open primaries? You'll have to ask Trythebeal how that can work out. it made him only 1 of 2 who regularly posts here who voted for Trump and the only one who did so enthusiastically (fairly certain TWA was not an enthusiastic supporter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: Out of curiosity....what's your stance on requiring IDs to vote? Hate it. I consider it a form of voter supression. Voter impersonation is extremely rare. It's estimated that 50+ million have been prevented from registering to vote due to these suppression efforts. It largely effects the poor, minorities, and military members serving overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, clietas said: Not sure I understand this. If you're a registered democrat or republican I dont think you should be allowed to vote in the oppositions primary. Independents absolutely. Dems n Reps tho could lead to absolute sabotage of the opposition in the primaries. Remember Trythebeal the boards' only 2016 enthusiastic Trump supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, clietas said: Hate it. I consider it a form of voter supression. Voter impersonation is extremely rare. It's estimated that 50+ million have been prevented from registering to vote due to these suppression efforts. It largely effects the poor, minorities, and military members serving overseas. Require IDs to vote and then close down the DMVs in minority and poor neighborhoods. Oops, sorry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, clietas said: Hate it. I consider it a form of voter supression. Voter impersonation is extremely rare. It's estimated that 50+ million have been prevented from registering to vote due to these suppression efforts. It largely effects the poor, minorities, and military members serving overseas. Do you not see the irony in this? You don't believe primaries should be fully open for any registered voter to be able to vote for the candidate they feel best represents the party they are affiliated, because "people are corrupt and will abuse it" but requiring someone to prove they are in fact who they are when casting a vote is "a form of voter suppression". This right here shows how both sides are so crooked that they talk out the side of their head to fit their narrative. And this is a large reason why there are so many of us voters that are fed up and don't like either of the candidates that either major party ends up putting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Require IDs to vote and then close down the DMVs in minority and poor neighborhoods. Oops, sorry about that Exactly. Followed by closing down polling places in those neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreaterbuzzette Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Just now, clietas said: Exactly. Followed by closing down polling places in those neighborhoods. Since y'all love to quote stats that say "voting fraud is practically non-existent". Who has a stat for how many people who vote, don't have a photo ID? I like facts, not anecdotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, thegreaterbuzzette said: Do you not see the irony in this? You don't believe primaries should be fully open for any registered voter to be able to vote for the candidate they feel best represents the party they are affiliated, because "people are corrupt and will abuse it" but requiring someone to prove they are in fact who they are when casting a vote is "a form of voter suppression". This right here shows how both sides are so crooked that they talk out the side of their head to fit their narrative. And this is a large reason why there are so many of us voters that are fed up and don't like either of the candidates that either major party ends up putting up. There's no evidence of voter impersonation tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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