justice98 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 If Davis ever learned to hit again, Machado, Davis, Schoop, Mancini in the heart of the lineup would be lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I'll be shocked if the O's sell tomorrow. I think they really believe they are in it and will keep all these vets around. Next guy that gets called up will be Pedro. Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if the O's were buyers tomorrow. I have zero faith in the organization to do what's right now and think long term. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 57 minutes ago, Hersh said: I'll be shocked if the O's sell tomorrow. I think they really believe they are in it and will keep all these vets around. Next guy that gets called up will be Pedro. Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if the O's were buyers tomorrow. I have zero faith in the organization to do what's right now and think long term. Hope I'm wrong. Watching the Giants/Dodgers tonight, Buster said there's a 50/50 chance that they'll deal Britton. Which, IMO, means he has no idea, either. He also said that fangraphs said that the Orioles have a 3% chance of making the playoffs. My gut tells me that they don't sell tomorrow which would be disappointing. Prying some Dodgers prospects away from them would be really awesome. And I like the Dodgers a little bit so I'd like to see Britton in a place where he can make a difference in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Watching the Giants/Dodgers tonight, Buster said there's a 50/50 chance that they'll deal Britton. Which, IMO, means he has no idea, either. He also said that fangraphs said that the Orioles have a 3% chance of making the playoffs. My gut tells me that they don't sell tomorrow which would be disappointing. Prying some Dodgers prospects away from them would be really awesome. And I like the Dodgers a little bit so I'd like to see Britton in a place where he can make a difference in the postseason. It was big that Britton pitched tonight on back to back nights and I'm sure there were tons of scouts there. I'll be okay if they don't trade guys like Britton or Brach if they really aren't getting a strong return. Britton can always be moved in the off-season and it wouldn't surprise me to see them keep Brach. However, if they are getting big offers, they would be foolish not to take it. I would take pretty much anything for O'Day but I think he has pitched himself out of having any value to another team. I'll be most disappointed if they don't at some point unload Castillo, Smith and anyone else with an ounce of value that is a pending FA. If it's true that the Nats, Dodgers and Astros at a minimum are involed, the O's should get what they are looking for to trade Britton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I just don't see it happening today. That Hellickson deal really made no sense. I mean, Kim was going to be an FA and if Hellickson had years remaining on his contract I'd say we're reloading but he doesn't. He's an FA, too. If we add anyone for the sake of going after it this year, I'll be pissed. Everyone seems to understand that we have almost no chance of making the playoffs except DD and PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Any predictions on the game tonight? Royals are only -106 and I'm thinking about betting on them lol. They are still dangerous and I expect Jimenez to pitch horribly (I'm sure he will pitch 8 shutout innings). Duffy is a solid pitcher, although he is a lefty and our right-handed lineup is hot. Plus he has bad experience at Camden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 13 hours ago, Hersh said: I'll be shocked if the O's sell tomorrow. I think they really believe they are in it and will keep all these vets around. Next guy that gets called up will be Pedro. Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if the O's were buyers tomorrow. I have zero faith in the organization to do what's right now and think long term. Hope I'm wrong. I agree with you. I don't think they make any moves today. They stand pat and we're right back in this situation next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 2 hours ago, abdcskins said: Any predictions on the game tonight? Royals are only -106 and I'm thinking about betting on them lol. They are still dangerous and I expect Jimenez to pitch horribly (I'm sure he will pitch 8 shutout innings). Duffy is a solid pitcher, although he is a lefty and our right-handed lineup is hot. Plus he has bad experience at Camden. Ubaldo used up his one quality start for the month already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The Royals are hot. We might squeeze out a win if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Seems like there is some chatter around Britton...I'm getting my hopes up that maybe they do the right thing today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 minute ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: Seems like there is some chatter around Britton...I'm getting my hopes up that maybe they do the right thing today! I'm not holding my breath. It sounds like the Astros, Indians, and Dodgers are all interested in him. Should be easy to get a bidding war going, but DD will find a way to mess this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 From ESPN deadline ticker: The Yankees have made a trade, but not for Sonny Gray yet. They traded minor league RHP Yefry Ramírez to the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for international signing bonus pool money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Wish we traded Britton when he was at his peak. Closers are a dime a dozen, great ones are not. He could've fetched a hell of a lot. I predict he stays, FO is probably asking for too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Yanks got Sonny Gray. LAD moved on, got Tony Watson from the Pirates instead of Britton, looks like. Love the team, hate the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hersh Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 So the O's ended up being buyers and traded away two minor league pitchers. I need to get out and go laugh about this cause this is how franchises don't win a WS or are put in the best position to do so. I don't mean that either minor league pitcher traded was a difference maker, but the inability for the O's to sell when they haven't been in playoff contention has cost this team at least 10 prospects in the system now. In case anyone missed it, the O's got Tim Beckham from the Rays today for last years 6th rounder. He will be the O's starting SS for the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 What the ****, why did we get Tim Beckham? Move Schoop to SS, dickheads. I hate this franchise. Love the team, hate this franchise. How the **** was I so fortunate to be born in an area where I had to grow up rooting for dumbass franchises. Seriously, the Wizards (trading Chris Webber when I was in high school, what the ****), the Orioles (Angelos) and of course, the Redskins. Like, it's a trifecta of ****ery. It just doesn't ever end. It's ineptness followed by colossal dumbassery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: What the ****, why did we get Tim Beckham? Move Schoop to SS, dickheads. I hate this franchise. Love the team, hate this franchise. I wouldn't hate the Beckham move if it accompanied the trade of Britton. O's need a SS next season and dude is serviceable and not expensive. However, this is a BUY move coupled with Hellickson. They literally think they are in playoff contention. Full incompetence by the O's front office. Ended up giving up minor league prospects instead of loading up on prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Let's see what they do at the winter meetings. Especially if they finish 10-15 games out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 You guys know I'm as optimistic as anyone about the O's. I'm totally dejected. Another missed opportunity by this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin4ever Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Hersh said: I wouldn't hate the Beckham move if it accompanied the trade of Britton. O's need a SS next season and dude is serviceable and not expensive. However, this is a BUY move coupled with Hellickson. They literally think they are in playoff contention. Full incompetence by the O's front office. Ended up giving up minor league prospects instead of loading up on prospects. I agree with everything in here except that this was a buy move by the Orioles. If it was a buy, we would have seen more moves probably for mediocre players. I think these moves were what we all sadly expected which is basically doing nothing. I think they were going to release Kim and instead got a pitcher to throw with the other bums. They also got a SS to replace Hardy. I don't think these moves really constitute much. My response to both was meh. I just wish they would commit one way or the other. Either go big and spend to get pitching or sell and rebuild to try and develop pitchers. I too am dejected since I think these moves don't move the team anywhere. I also worry they hold Britton too long and he either gets hurt or just starts to pitch like O'Day. Closers have such a short life span. I think they needed to strike while the iron was hot and they did not. Maybe the offers weren't any good and all this pans out, but I'm not hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I don't mind the Beckham move. He is 27 and has showed some skill. Not a bad acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, abdcskins said: I don't mind the Beckham move. He is 27 and has showed some skill. Not a bad acquisition. He's still young and has upside and it's not costing a ton. We were going to need a SS next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Jimenez pitching well like I expected lol. And yeah I took the Royals, it's a win either way for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, Redskin4ever said: I agree with everything in here except that this was a buy move by the Orioles. If it was a buy, we would have seen more moves probably for mediocre players. I think these moves were what we all sadly expected which is basically doing nothing. I think they were going to release Kim and instead got a pitcher to throw with the other bums. They also got a SS to replace Hardy. I don't think these moves really constitute much. My response to both was meh. I just wish they would commit one way or the other. Either go big and spend to get pitching or sell and rebuild to try and develop pitchers. I too am dejected since I think these moves don't move the team anywhere. I also worry they hold Britton too long and he either gets hurt or just starts to pitch like O'Day. Closers have such a short life span. I think they needed to strike while the iron was hot and they did not. Maybe the offers weren't any good and all this pans out, but I'm not hopeful. I'm dejected as well. The reason I view the Beckham as a buy move is that wasn't necessary to do now and the O's gave up a 6th round pick that is showing well in low-A. For an organization that lacks pitching, I don't give up anyone that is showing promise and is only 19. Hopefully it works out but I'm skeptical that a team in the playoff race and in our division gave him up. Especially when that team does a pretty good job developing pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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