justice98 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It's almost not how many you miss, it's the circumstances in which you miss them. I'll be curious to see if this affects Gruden's decision making. I think what used to be 70/30 calls to kick become 50/50 every time he misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 We as fans need to stop having knee jerk reactions. We cut Gano for Billy Cundiff...who we cut mid-season in 2012. We then got Forbath who we then cut for Hopkins I believe two years ago. Prior to that, we had the likes of Shaun Suisham and Nick Novak. All of those guys (except for Cundiff who I'm not sure of) went on to play for other teams with success and many are still playing. Hopkins has been our best kicker in quite some time going back to Eddie Murray and Chip Lohmiller. He also can pretty much control if he kicks for a touchback or downs it inside the 5, which is why we signed him in the first place. Overall, he's been pretty accurate on field goals. You take out two questionable calls to kick long field goals and his stats look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBass1724 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 7 hours ago, Mr. S said: Hopkins has been our best kicker in quite some time going back to Eddie Murray Eddie Murray kicked for us in two different seasons - 1995 and 2000 (39 years old and 44 years old, respectively). He was 35 for 48 total and only 10 for 19 on attempts of 40 yards or more. He was very terrible for us. I seem to remember him attempting a 45 yarder for a game winner for us that came up short in one of those seasons? Not 100% positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Kickers are like golfers or hitters in baseball, they can be a bit streaky, and sometimes they have slumps. I'm a believer in exercising patience and giving a good player a chance to play through a slump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, s0crates said: Kickers are like golfers or hitters in baseball, they can be a bit streaky, and sometimes they have slumps. I'm a believer in exercising patience and giving a good player a chance to play through a slump. It was interesting also after the London game that Dustin's teammates were really sorry for him because they know the work he puts in and didn't really wanted to throw him under the bus... That should be telling to us as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, CBass1724 said: Eddie Murray kicked for us in two different seasons - 1995 and 2000 (39 years old and 44 years old, respectively). He was 35 for 48 total and only 10 for 19 on attempts of 40 yards or more. He was very terrible for us. I seem to remember him attempting a 45 yarder for a game winner for us that came up short in one of those seasons? Not 100% positive. 2000 - the game that got Norv fired against the Giants. We lost 9-7. Murray told Norv that he couldn't make the FG from whatever distance it was but he was sent out there anyway. The L dropped the Skins to 7-6... Hopkins needs to stay. There are about two kickers that are "automatic" so it seems that we should live through this slump given Hopkins strong leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Nobody is saying replace him and nobody is saying he's not a solid kicker, what people are saying is that's he's been inconsistent lately, not great on the road and a worry recently when he lines up. No reason he should go but bringing in competition to get his head back on straight and light a little fire isn't a bad thing. I love the guy and am sure he will be the automatic kicker he's been but, again, hasn't been the greatest year for him. and yes, he's leading in fgm but when you also lead in fga it's really irrelevant and just pulling at strings to compensate for the lower % he's had this year and yes that number would be better if you take out a few attempts that were 55+ but other kickers have that same push just at or outside their limit that they get dinged for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 7 hours ago, steve09ru said: Nobody is saying replace him and nobody is saying he's not a solid kicker, what people are saying is that's he's been inconsistent lately, Go back and read through the thread there were at least 3 people who said to cut him now....and they were serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Xameil said: Go back and read through the thread there were at least 3 people who said to cut him now....and they were serious 1 said to bring in kickers this week and 1 said competition in offseason. Reading back through it all everyone likes Hopkins but said he could be doing better this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 A brief message from the grammar police. Hopkins' miss does not make one nauseous; it makes one nauseated. Nauseous means nauseating. Gases can be nauseous, but people are not (unless they haven't showered in months resulting in nauseous body odors). Back to our regularly scheduled thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 27 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said: A brief message from the grammar police. Hopkins' miss does not make one nauseous; it makes one nauseated. Nauseous means nauseating. Gases can be nauseous, but people are not (unless they haven't showered in months resulting in nauseous body odors). Back to our regularly scheduled thread. So the nauseous fart made people nauseated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 43 minutes ago, Riggo-toni said: A brief message from the grammar police. Hopkins' miss does not make one nauseous; it makes one nauseated. Nauseous means nauseating. Gases can be nauseous, but people are not (unless they haven't showered in months resulting in nauseous body odors). Back to our regularly scheduled thread. A brief message from Internal Affairs division of Grammar Police: The possessive of "Hopkins" would be "Hopkins's." There would be no "S" following the apostrophe only if you were referring to something possessed by multiple of "Hopkin" in that instance. Bonus: Pluralizing his name would make it "Hopkinses." Excellent use of a semicolon, though! You rarely see them used correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 i dont think he has missed a kick at Fedex this year. Remember how this field used to be a terror for other kickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said: A brief message from Internal Affairs division of Grammar Police: The possessive of "Hopkins" would be "Hopkins's." There would be no "S" following the apostrophe only if you were referring to something possessed by multiple of "Hopkin" in that instance. Bonus: Pluralizing his name would make it "Hopkinses." Excellent use of a semicolon, though! You rarely see them used correctly. Yeah one of the only gramme rules I remember from my school years! I pay particular attention to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GhostofAlvinWalton Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 hours ago, NewCliche21 said: Excellent use of a semicolon, though! You rarely see them used correctly. What the **** is a semicolon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 55 minutes ago, GhostofAlvinWalton said: What the **** is a semicolon? A partially removed large intestine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 56 minutes ago, GhostofAlvinWalton said: What the **** is a semicolon? This: ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAlvinWalton Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, Xameil said: A partially removed large intestine? Just the tip? 17 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: This: ; Holy ****snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Time to cut him and have him go on to be a career kicker for another team a la Suisham, Gano, Novak...am I missing someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, SittingBull said: Time to cut him and have him go on to be a career kicker for another team a la Suisham, Gano, Novak...am I missing someone? This guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 hours ago, skinfan2k said: i dont think he has missed a kick at Fedex this year. Remember how this field used to be a terror for other kickers. Almost positive he hit the upright in the GB game. Possibly even missed another. But that night was cold and windy as all hell so I didn't think too much of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ya this was the last thing skins needed, this guy going in the tank... with the awful defense and close games, every Point is a potential winning/losing margin... London has messed this guy up and it seems, with skins kickers, they rarely find their rhythm again unless it's with another team. he is totally unreliable now. Put FG kicker in the needs category for 2017 along with just about every position on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 40 minutes ago, jpage520 said: Almost positive he hit the upright in the GB game. Possibly even missed another. But that night was cold and windy as all hell so I didn't think too much of it. Sorry, but you're wrong Home (FGA/FGM) Pittsburgh: 3/3 Dallas: 3/3 Cleveland: 1/1 Philadelphia: 2/2 Minnesota: 4/4 Green Bay: 1/1 Total: 14/14 Away (FGA/FGM) New York: 5/5 Baltimore: 2/1 Detroit: 2/1 Hopkins hits top upright Cincinnati: 4/2 Dallas: 4/2 Arizona: 3/3 Philadelphia: 1/0 Total: 21/14 And he had one windy miss in Baltimore where the ball was seemingly right, until the last second where it went left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage520 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Wildbunny said: Sorry, but you're wrong I wasn't actually. He missed an EP. http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/0ap3000000620619/Dustin-Hopkins-misses-extra-point Reason I was so sure is he kicked this one at the end zone I usually sit by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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