Fergasun Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Larry said: Really hope that's a fake post from AOC. If it's not, my thinking right now is that if I have to choose between her and an R in '24, I might sit out. Her proposal is that .... stupid? Anti-American? Counter rule of law? Is this a joke? She is basically saying Roe v. Wade could have been protected by Congress. So let's protect the 3 or 4 other popular Supreme Court cases that are at risk of Supreme Court roll-back. I hate that I can't browse Twitter like a webpage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Fergasun said: Is this a joke? She is basically saying Roe v. Wade could have been protected by Congress. So let's protect the 3 or 4 other popular Supreme Court cases that are at risk of Supreme Court roll-back. I hate that I can't browse Twitter like a webpage... Just use Tweetdeck. Then instead of a single hard-to-use column with no discernable organization, you get multiple custom hard-to-use columns with no discernable organization. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Fergasun said: Is this a joke? She is basically saying Roe v. Wade could have been protected by Congress. So let's protect the 3 or 4 other popular Supreme Court cases that are at risk of Supreme Court roll-back. I hate that I can't browse Twitter like a webpage... Not that I'm in the know, but couldn't Roe v Wade have been codified into federal law via legislation? As well as any other important ones (Loving, Obergefell, Brown)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fergasun said: Is this a joke? She is basically saying Roe v. Wade could have been protected by Congress. So let's protect the 3 or 4 other popular Supreme Court cases that are at risk of Supreme Court roll-back. No she's not. She's proposing that Congress intentionally misread a phrase in the Constitution, and eliminate the constitutional separation of powers. Because her side lost a vote. No, the constitution does not grant Congress the authority to declare a person, a place, or a piece of legislation, to be completely immune to the entire judicial branch. On a scale of wrongness, her proposal is pretty close to the proposal for Congress to throw out the votes of six states, because they lost a vote. They're not identical. But they're pretty close. Edited July 15, 2022 by Larry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Actually, I like her proposal Larry. One of the arguments around individual gun rights is whether individual ownership is a misinterpretation of the garbage constitution. Sounds like the same kind of thing to me. The other side has thrown out the rules so we'd be suckers to keep playing by them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I suspect AOCs tweet is on the condition of a national law banning abortion..or gay marriages..or whatever. As it stands right now, SCOTUS kicked it back to the states and their representatives. But when SCOTUS rules in favor of Republicans on an abortion case between say California and Texas (which is their purview as expressed in Article III), the **** will really hit the fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted July 15, 2022 Author Share Posted July 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, The Sisko said: Actually, I like her proposal Larry. One of the arguments around individual gun rights is whether individual ownership is a misinterpretation of the garbage constitution. Sounds like the same kind of thing to me. The other side has thrown out the rules so we'd be suckers to keep playing by them. Then you should go join the mob storming the building, to stop them from voting. You being such a big believer in "well, the other side broke a rule, first" and all. I won't be there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Larry said: Really hope that's a fake post from AOC. If it's not, my thinking right now is that if I have to choose between her and an R in '24, I might sit out. Her proposal is that .... stupid? Anti-American? Counter rule of law? I checked. It is a legit tweet from AOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Sisko Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Sooo, if a couple does in vitro fertilization, child support would be required until the embryo is thawed out? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) Idaho GOP but expect this to be the national platform at some point. Edited July 16, 2022 by Cooked Crack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 23 hours ago, The Sisko said: Sooo, if a couple does in vitro fertilization, child support would be required until the embryo is thawed out? Not "until"...but "before". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bearrock Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) On 7/15/2022 at 5:26 PM, Larry said: Then you should go join the mob storming the building, to stop them from voting. You being such a big believer in "well, the other side broke a rule, first" and all. I won't be there. It's a matter of original jurisdiction (which cannot be restricted) vs appellate jurisdiction (which is subject to exceptions and regulations imposed by Congress). So, it would not be in violation of the constitution if Congress wanted to create a separate lower federal courts dealing with subject xyz and except it from appellate review by the Supreme Court. Obviously it's a nonstarter and a waste of time, but she's not advocating for something that the Constitution doesn't already permit. The idea is not new either. It's been floated as far back as the 70s on the sunject of abortion by the GOP (which is also a pretty good sign that it's a waste of time and pretty stupid imo). Edited July 17, 2022 by bearrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88Comrade2000 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) It’s going to get much worse; especially of the gop has full control if the national government in 25. I know some think this be enough to keep the US congress in Dem hands, that people will rise up this November. I don’t. I don’t think it will affect enough people to make a big difference this fall. Inflation still #1 issue. Also, you really need to flip state congresses to stop this, since this all happening at state level. Anericans aren’t proactive but reactive. They are going have to live under the Gop Christian Theocratic Sharia like state for a few years and experience all the bad things coming; before voters throw them out. It isn’t happening in 22. Maybe 24? I am thinking the 26,28 elections is when the gop is thrown out everywhere and the theocratic state can be undone. Edited July 17, 2022 by 88Comrade2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Schrödinger's fetus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Evil Genius Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Companies that donate to these assholes need to be punished. It's not cancel culture. It's capitalism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 23 hours ago, The Sisko said: A lot of people in the media "blinked"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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