TD_washingtonredskins Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm sure many of you are aware of this, but I just heard about this today and it is blowing my mind. Granted, I'm sure it's just a conspiracy theory, but the idea that it's even remotely possible is so interesting to me. http://www.damninteresting.com/the-phantom-time-hypothesis/ When Dr. Hans-Ulrich Niemitz introduces his paper on the "phantom time hypothesis," he kindly asks his readers to be patient, benevolent, and open to radically new ideas, because his claims are highly unconventional. This is because his paper is suggesting three difficult-to-believe propositions: 1) Hundreds of years ago, our calendar was polluted with 297 years which never occurred; 2) this is not the year 2005, but rather 1708; and 3) The purveyors of this hypothesis are not crackpots. The Phantom Time Hypothesis suggests that the early Middle Ages (614-911 A.D.) never happened, but were added to the calendar long ago either by accident, by misinterpretation of documents, or by deliberate falsification by calendar conspirators. This would mean that all artifacts ascribed to those three centuries belong to other periods, and that all events thought to have occurred during that same period occurred at other times, or are outright fabrications. For instance, a man namedHeribert Illig (pictured), one of the leading proponents of the theory, believes that Charlemagnewas a fictional character. But what evidence is this outlandish theory based upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Funny thing...not one person alive today knows when year one actually was. Personally, I think we are in year unknown million. Interesting however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Funny thing...not one person alive today knows when year one actually was. Personally, I think we are in year unknown million. Interesting however. I know when year 1 wasIt was the first year Actually...the 2nd year...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I know when year 1 was It was the first year Actually...the 2nd year...lol That is completely unfair sir. haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 At first I thought this was going to be about theoretical physics, sort of like the holographic universe theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 That is completely unfair sir. haha. Lol it was also a movie by Jack Black and Michael Cera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Meh. Lots of crazy theories out there by highly educated nutjobs. I bought my wife a book by an author who claims the homeric legends were actually based on wars in the Baltic Sea, and then passed down to the Greeks when the Baltic peoples migrated south. The author goes to fairly great lengths to match the geography of the Iliad with Baltic landmarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I can see how we may not be in the year we think...throw leap year in there and it makes things even wackier I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Lol it was also a movie by Jack Black and Michael Cera Please don't remind me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Too late to change it now, even if this crackpot theory incredibly turns out to be true, it's too late to change it all now without making a mess of things. Best to just go with it. "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoléon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Lol it was also a movie by Jack Black and Michael Cera Yes, I know. That was really slick of you. :fistbump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've heard of it. There is an interesting prima facie case here, as that era is conspicuously short on notable writings and events. That said, I don't think any medieval historians take this seriously. The writer of the article quoted in the OP has it about right in my opinion, there is some interesting evidence, but it just isn't enough to accept such an extraordinary claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 That said, I don't think any medieval historians take this seriously. But the conspiracy folks will tell you that stance is entirely predictable. After all those historians would look quite the fools if this proved to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 But the conspiracy folks will tell you that stance is entirely predictable. After all those historians would look quite the fools if this proved to be true. Off topic, but I really dislike how the word "conspiracy" is used nowadays. The word really isn't a synonym for "crackpot."(Not a dig at you Des, your usage is in keeping with ordinary usage in recent times, it's just that the word doesn't really mean what people think it means). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Off topic, but I really dislike how the word "conspiracy" is used nowadays. The word really isn't a synonym for "crackpot." (Not a dig at you Des, your usage is in keeping with ordinary usage in recent times, it's just that the word doesn't really mean what people think it means). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm not sure i needed this today...damn, it's 1718. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Damn it!! Now I have to start prepping for Y2K again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm not sure i needed this today...damn, it's 1718. What do you mean, this is great! I was worried about hitting 30 in a couple years. Now I have another 325 years to come to terms with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah, the moon landing was a hoax and Bush took down the towers... Albeit, it is interesting until I realize that it is a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah, the moon landing was a hoax and Bush took down the towers... Albeit, it is interesting until I realize that it is a conspiracy. I guess my complaints about the misuse of the word "conspiracy" will continue to fall on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I guess my complaints about the misuse of the word "conspiracy" will continue to fall on deaf ears.They're conspiring to ignore your complaints. I'm with you, though. Richard Nixon spying on the Democrats at Watergate was a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a very real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I guess my complaints about the misuse of the word "conspiracy" will continue to fall on deaf ears. Lol I think I am just going to use conspiracy in every possible thread, and never correctly...let's see how long before you go nuts...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoléon Man I live by that quote. *Fist bump* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Fun to think about. The Wikipedia page suggests there is strong evidence that this is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 There are some intellectual sins only an educated person can commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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