Bishop Hammer Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I don't want anyone from the Ravens they had a couple of guys leave to be GMs Phil Savage and George Kokinis and they epically failed. Oddly enough many who left New England has had the same problem? Whether to be a GM or head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Wow Cali - thanks for that! Eye-opening stuff right there. Just say nay to Pioli . That dude is off his rocker - a candy wrappe left in the stair well was cause for a big meeting. Holy smokes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 lol, that's some crazy stuff, what an awful situation to have to worry that your phone is tapped. With all the leaks we have, though, maybe his kind of terrible is exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I would literally trade picks for him. After all, without him we'd be wasting them anyway. Eric DeCosta is all I want for every Christmas/birthday ever. You'd have to offer him the Earth to get him to leave Baltimore where's he's 'GM in waiting' already on a GM's money. 'The Earth' like MEGA salary, Gm/ Team President title, the whole nine yards. Some proven, young player personnel guys out there that may well be itching for s hot like the Pats Nick Caserio and Tom Gamble of Philly. Latterly heavily credited with building the '8ers depth. Colts VP of football ops Jimmy Raye has a wealth of scouting and personnel experience. Someone like that itching for a first time shot at the top gig would do just fine. As it is. I don't see anyone but the status quo returning sadly and as such I've written 2015 off already as another shambolic season in our inglorious recent history. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKKI8 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not sure how the Redskins front office structure works but surely Bruce Allen wasn't alone in the selection of the horrible free agent class of 2014. He should get the blame for it because as he stated in his press conference last spring he is in charge and has the final say. I guess what I am getting at is that I don't really think there is anybody currently employed by the Redskins that has a keen eye for judging talent. AJ Smith, Scott Campbell, Allen, Snyder, Morocco Brown (before he left), Doug Wlliams, scouts..... surely all had input on the duds that were signed by this team this past off season. I have zero talent evaluating skills but even an idiot like me couldn't understand why some G that by all reports was less than mediocre with Cleveland last year was getting wooed by the Redskins at the start of free agency and given a nice contract that I really doubt anybody else was going to offer Shawn Lauvoa. I doubt there were teams waiting on his doorstep to sign him right away other than Washington. I think everyone except Bruce and the boys knew Tracey Porter was an injury waiting to happen, but they made him their highest paid DB for this season. What made them decide to sign a 32 year old 4-3 DE to a huge contract when they play a 3-4 defense in which Hatcher has played in the past and wasn't near as good. As I said before, I sure don't know much and it is this FA class's first year but I don't really see anybody other than Desean Jackson being a good pick up and I think he was a can't miss from the start. I hope that if a new GM is hired, he is not already on this teams payroll because I find it hard to believe that it was just Bruce Allen who decided to sign these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Ugh. It'll be former high school phys ed teacher (and erstwhile Chargers GM) AJ Smith, if he accepts the job. You know, the guy who fired Marty after he went 14-2 and then hired Norv Turner. So what? Marty never won anything in the post season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 For those of you who want someone who doesn't already have ties to our current staff, AJ Smith isn't it. He has been friends with Bruce Allen for a long time, and his son has been on our scouting department for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Veni, Vidi, Vinny You know you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Cont. from another thread: http://es.redskins.com/topic/382266-thoughts-on-cousins-and-the-next-few-weeks/page-90#entry10083978 Posted Today, 05:41 AM mojo, on 27 Dec 2014 - 11:51 PM, said: Just a few other names AJ Smith drafted while in San Diego....Vincent Jackson, Darren Sproles, Luis Castillo, Antonio Cromartie, Eric Weddle, Marcus McNeil. Yea, those teams were stacked with talent. Most of those players were to replace existing good players and he summarily pissed them off and let them leave. I never said they were not good teams. But you said best roster in the league. IMO that's just too much a stretch. My bigger point is that he may be able to evaluate talent, but he is a horrible GM overall as he could not keep the talent together and often ran valuable players off for no reason. He may have assembled a few decent teams, but he immediately went to work destroying them. One last question - AJ Smith has been here 2 years. Has the player evaluation been any better since he got here? I do not think so. In the end I believe he is just not the guy we need here. My next thoughts are at: http://es.redskins.c...-gm-candidates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Most of those players were to replace existing good players and he summarily pissed them off and let them leave. I never said they were not good teams. But you said best roster in the league. IMO that's just too much a stretch. My bigger point is that he may be able to evaluate talent, but he is a horrible GM overall as he could not keep the talent together and often ran valuable players off for no reason. He may have assembled a few decent teams, but he immediately went to work destroying them. One last question - AJ Smith has been here 2 years. Has the player evaluation been any better since he got here? I do not think so. In the end I believe he is just not the guy we need here. We don't know what AJ's role or how active he has been in developing the Redskins roster currently. We do know that AJ is light years ahead of anything we have had here since Bethard as a talent evaluator and scout manager. We also know that Bruce Allen is good at contracts and managing the cap. The two weaknesses cross each other out if managed correctly from the owner, (sez prayer Snyder somehow reads this post of all the posts he could possibly read on ES) Talking AJ into moving to the DMV when he lives in SOCal maybe Snyder's biggest challenge. However something tells me the fact that his son could be groomed under his tutelage might be very tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge316 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Whoever it is (most likely AJ Smith), it won't be someone outside the organization. It'll be someone with close ties to the FO. It's the only way the Redskins ever do business. Friends & Family run the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Bill Parcells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike42 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 We riot if it's AJ Smith. So what? Marty never won anything in the post season. And Norv Turner didn't either. Marty turned god awful franchises into winners. Marty was the ONLY coach that removed the cancer attitude in Redskin Park during Synder era. Made so much progress through his only year. AJ Smith is a idiot. His ego is his problem. Firing a 14-2 winning head coach and replacing him with Norv is bat **** insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 really? There was a cancerous attitude one year into Snyder's time as owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So does anyone know when Bruce will have his press conference? Is it today or tomorrow? Next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So does anyone know when Bruce will have his press conference? Is it today or tomorrow? Next week? Tomorrow morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Sounds good thanks Maybe we'll get some LEAKS today. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Have any DCs been released yet around the league? Maybe there will be someone in Baltimore that will be available for a GM candidate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I met Marty Schottenheimer one time. He lives in Lake Norman right here outside of Charlotte. He was nice and he seemed like a good guy, but I'm not sure why everyone wants to put the rift between he and AJ as only AJs fault. Marty has a reputation for being pretty stubborn and ornery too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAILSKINSNYC Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I would let AJ Smith run the draft...this would allow him to stay in San Diego, as it seems he'd like to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 AJ Smith? Isn't he already on the payroll? I don't get it. If BA isn't the football mind we all say, I don't see him objecting to AJ Smiths input. Seems like hiring from within not really change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Bill ParcellsYou know what I like about this idea... Identity.It has been asked in other threads 'what is offense and even organizations identity?' At this point, I think bringing in a model to win would do wonders. Mission statements, identity, goal projections- Iactually wouldn't mind 3 years of parcels with a mentor in wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 AJ Smith? Isn't he already on the payroll? I don't get it. If BA isn't the football mind we all say, I don't see him objecting to AJ Smiths input. Seems like hiring from within not really change. Bruce can always take AJs input, doesn't mean he used it. Bruce said himself last spring, he has final say.Parcells is past his prime. He couldn't turn Miami around. That was his last hurrah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I actually don't believe they'll bring in a GM. I can't see Bruce admitting he can't hack it after one season. And the only way you avoid the dreaded 'GM inheriting the head coach' is to give it to AJ Smith, which really doesn't totally avoid that. And even then, Allen and Snyder are STILL too involved in football decisions. Guarantee, they will find a way to screw this up. It'll wind up being a 3-headed GM monster or some such thing. Even when this organization makes a wise decision, they wind up messing up the details. Like when they fired Vinny (great idea), only to follow it up by giving Shanahan total control (not such a great idea). Or when they fired Shanahan (good idea) but then gave Allen GM responsibilities (not such a good idea). Hire Gruden (jury's still out), but then torpedo it out of the gate by not firing Haslett (terrible idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 We riot if it's AJ Smith. And Norv Turner didn't either. Marty turned god awful franchises into winners. Marty was the ONLY coach that removed the cancer attitude in Redskin Park during Synder era. Made so much progress through his only year. AJ Smith is a idiot. His ego is his problem. Firing a 14-2 winning head coach and replacing him with Norv is bat **** insane. Quiet as it's kept, Norv was actually 3-3 in the postseason as Chargers coach. Schottenheimer, 0-2. Norv actually improved on Marty by going to the AFC championship his first year. The argument would be he took Marty's players, but what about Marty's 5-13 postseason record says he would've done better than .500 or gotten that team over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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